stud dogs brood bitches and dog prizes in general. and the ""Justification"" in

[R2L]

When you sell dogs for a living, money comes first.

I think for you quality came first and thats what separates you from 99,99% of the breeders who sell dogs for a living. So that was not directed towards you, you're right about what you couldn't have done if you were to selective.

[Officially Retired]

I think for you quality came first and thats what separates you from 99,99% of the breeders who sell dogs for a living. So that was not directed towards you, you're right about what you couldn't have done if you were to selective.

Thank you. I did everything I could to produce quality, from the dogs I bred, to creating a full set of instructions (my books) as to what to do with them ... from birth till death .... and even how to properly manage their gene pools, with selective breeding choices, to carry their genetic qualities indefinitely on into posterity. And I would say 85% don't listen

So, you were right, it is tough to watch people mess-up with the lives/happiness/potential of the dogs I've created ... but I've also got to meet a lot of cool people along the way too and see my dogs achieve a high level of success all over the world as well.

I've pretty much stopped my own involvement in breeding now, for legal as well as a lot of other reasons, but I remain extremely interested in these dogs ... so I am trying to create the best online resource of information on dogs through this website

Jack

[evolutionkennels]

Thank you. I did everything I could to produce quality, from the dogs I bred, to creating a full set of instructions (my books) as to what to do with them ... from birth till death .... and even how to properly manage their gene pools, with selective breeding choices, to carry their genetic qualities indefinitely on into posterity. And I would say 85% don't listen

So, you were right, it is tough to watch people mess-up with the lives/happiness/potential of the dogs I've created ... but I've also got to meet a lot of cool people along the way too and see my dogs achieve a high level of success all over the world as well.

I've pretty much stopped my own involvement in breeding now, for legal as well as a lot of other reasons, but I remain extremely interested in these dogs ... so I am trying to create the best online resource of information on dogs through this website

Jack

As As a breeder , Jack has been able to establish a line of winning dogs, known as the vise grip line, or the cali Jack dogs. Produced countless winners champions, grand champions, and deadgame dogs like Nazi. ALL bloodlines have curs, it's just that the better lines have better percentages. One of the most difficult things to watch is a dumbass make mistakes with YOUR FAMILY OF DOGS. ONE OF THE MOST REWARDING IS TO SEE SOMEONE HAVE SUCCESS WITH YOUR STOCK. I am in the process of establishing the Machobuck line of dogs. I am extremely excited that my studs have champions each from the very first breedings done with them, with many more to come. But I've equally pulled my hair out. The other weekend a greenhorn tool a daughter of mr. Machobuck to 1:26 belly crawl flopping scratches to win pushing two pounds... No aftercare. Another in Jersey pushing 3 to 2:20 at 33 pounds with a 17 months old pup. It's enough to make you throw up. Another 2xer being done with a 26 blood count. So. .. It's a tough argument if such and such dog is a "producer" The bottom line is feed isn't free, you gotta sell some, but you also have to place some in experienced proven hands. We've recently taken a mentor approach to some newbies that are full of piss and vinegar, and have had good results.

[Officially Retired]

Great post!

Great to know!

This is a great post.

Thank you and glad you enjoyed the read ...

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As As a breeder , Jack has been able to establish a line of winning dogs, known as the vise grip line, or the cali Jack dogs. Produced countless winners champions, grand champions, and deadgame dogs like Nazi. ALL bloodlines have curs, it's just that the better lines have better percentages. One of the most difficult things to watch is a dumbass make mistakes with YOUR FAMILY OF DOGS. ONE OF THE MOST REWARDING IS TO SEE SOMEONE HAVE SUCCESS WITH YOUR STOCK. I am in the process of establishing the Machobuck line of dogs. I am extremely excited that my studs have champions each from the very first breedings done with them, with many more to come. But I've equally pulled my hair out. The other weekend a greenhorn tool a daughter of mr. Machobuck to 1:26 belly crawl flopping scratches to win pushing two pounds... No aftercare. Another in Jersey pushing 3 to 2:20 at 33 pounds with a 17 months old pup. It's enough to make you throw up. Another 2xer being done with a 26 blood count. So. .. It's a tough argument if such and such dog is a "producer" The bottom line is feed isn't free, you gotta sell some, but you also have to place some in experienced proven hands. We've recently taken a mentor approach to some newbies that are full of piss and vinegar, and have had good results.

Thank you and great post yourself.

All I can say is I share your hopes ... and feel your pain ... and have no doubt that you'll achieve everything you set your mind to.

It would be a lot easier if people appreciated what they had and the thought/work that was put into it.

Cheers,

Jack

[Stella]

As As a breeder , Jack has been able to establish a line of winning dogs, known as the vise grip line, or the cali Jack dogs. Produced countless winners champions, grand champions, and deadgame dogs like Nazi. ALL bloodlines have curs, it's just that the better lines have better percentages. One of the most difficult things to watch is a dumbass make mistakes with YOUR FAMILY OF DOGS. ONE OF THE MOST REWARDING IS TO SEE SOMEONE HAVE SUCCESS WITH YOUR STOCK. I am in the process of establishing the Machobuck line of dogs. I am extremely excited that my studs have champions each from the very first breedings done with them, with many more to come. But I've equally pulled my hair out. The other weekend a greenhorn tool a daughter of mr. Machobuck to 1:26 belly crawl flopping scratches to win pushing two pounds... No aftercare. Another in Jersey pushing 3 to 2:20 at 33 pounds with a 17 months old pup. It's enough to make you throw up. Another 2xer being done with a 26 blood count. So. .. It's a tough argument if such and such dog is a "producer" The bottom line is feed isn't free, you gotta sell some, but you also have to place some in experienced proven hands. We've recently taken a mentor approach to some newbies that are full of piss and vinegar, and have had good results.

This is nice to hear.because of the state of things these days it is difficult for a greenhorn to get good sound guidance especially with all the dirtbag so called dogmen.If the wrong person gets a hold of a greenhorn it compounds stupidity.

[evolutionkennels]

This is nice to hear.because of the state of things these days it is difficult for a greenhorn to get good sound guidance especially with all the dirtbag so called dogmen.If the wrong person gets a hold of a greenhorn it compounds stupidity.

[Pit Bull Committed]

This is nice to hear.because of the state of things these days it is difficult for a greenhorn to get good sound guidance especially with all the dirtbag so called dogmen.If the wrong person gets a hold of a greenhorn it compounds stupidity.

I agree with you...but I'll add that a smart greenhorn will know how to spot a dirtbag dogman quickly and stay away from them. Newbies that has no goals and standards will not tthrive. We can't aways blame the dirtbag dogman. Most newbies are monkey see monkey do...too in a rush to get dogs from just anyone and do something with them. Only a few will put in the effort and work...do their homework/research and strive for top class competition.

[Stella]

I agree with you...but I'll add that a smart greenhorn will know how to spot a dirtbag dogman quickly and stay away from them. Newbies that has no goals and standards will not tthrive. We can't aways blame the dirtbag dogman. Most newbies are monkey see monkey do...too in a rush to get dogs from just anyone and do something with them. Only a few will put in the effort and work...do their homework/research and strive for top class competition.

Yep.....also a careful greenhorn will struggle to get "in" with the right people simply because the right people are careful who they associate with....it can be tough for a good up and comer who may have great intentions etc.But can not find the right people to associate with.