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[Stella]

As As a breeder , Jack has been able to establish a line of winning dogs, known as the vise grip line, or the cali Jack dogs. Produced countless winners champions, grand champions, and deadgame dogs like Nazi. ALL bloodlines have curs, it's just that the better lines have better percentages. One of the most difficult things to watch is a dumbass make mistakes with YOUR FAMILY OF DOGS. ONE OF THE MOST REWARDING IS TO SEE SOMEONE HAVE SUCCESS WITH YOUR STOCK. I am in the process of establishing the Machobuck line of dogs. I am extremely excited that my studs have champions each from the very first breedings done with them, with many more to come. But I've equally pulled my hair out. The other weekend a greenhorn tool a daughter of mr. Machobuck to 1:26 belly crawl flopping scratches to win pushing two pounds... No aftercare. Another in Jersey pushing 3 to 2:20 at 33 pounds with a 17 months old pup. It's enough to make you throw up. Another 2xer being done with a 26 blood count. So. .. It's a tough argument if such and such dog is a "producer" The bottom line is feed isn't free, you gotta sell some, but you also have to place some in experienced proven hands. We've recently taken a mentor approach to some newbies that are full of piss and vinegar, and have had good results.

This is nice to hear.because of the state of things these days it is difficult for a greenhorn to get good sound guidance especially with all the dirtbag so called dogmen.If the wrong person gets a hold of a greenhorn it compounds stupidity.

[evolutionkennels]

This is nice to hear.because of the state of things these days it is difficult for a greenhorn to get good sound guidance especially with all the dirtbag so called dogmen.If the wrong person gets a hold of a greenhorn it compounds stupidity.

[Pit Bull Committed]

This is nice to hear.because of the state of things these days it is difficult for a greenhorn to get good sound guidance especially with all the dirtbag so called dogmen.If the wrong person gets a hold of a greenhorn it compounds stupidity.

I agree with you...but I'll add that a smart greenhorn will know how to spot a dirtbag dogman quickly and stay away from them. Newbies that has no goals and standards will not tthrive. We can't aways blame the dirtbag dogman. Most newbies are monkey see monkey do...too in a rush to get dogs from just anyone and do something with them. Only a few will put in the effort and work...do their homework/research and strive for top class competition.

[Stella]

I agree with you...but I'll add that a smart greenhorn will know how to spot a dirtbag dogman quickly and stay away from them. Newbies that has no goals and standards will not tthrive. We can't aways blame the dirtbag dogman. Most newbies are monkey see monkey do...too in a rush to get dogs from just anyone and do something with them. Only a few will put in the effort and work...do their homework/research and strive for top class competition.

Yep.....also a careful greenhorn will struggle to get "in" with the right people simply because the right people are careful who they associate with....it can be tough for a good up and comer who may have great intentions etc.But can not find the right people to associate with.