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    Quote Originally Posted by gabbagabbahey View Post
    Regarding the liquid nitrogen container you had to hire,i have only recently been told of a much cheaper alternative which serves the same purpose,but is disposable & one way. So basically you buy the container & it is sufficient to keep the frozen at the right temperature for four or so days,giving ample time to reach the freezing bank.
    Haven't looked further on this,but I would appreciate any input if anyone knows of or has used one.
    Sounds very similar to the type which Jack mentions in his DVD,regarding using semen extender in fresh sperm.
    Apologies for straying LK. If I get a short reply,then I will open a new thread
    Hi , yes there are one way disposable containers called CRYODRUMS, and having looked into this in some detail i can tell you that they are not relaible for air shipping, they seem to be very easily broken and there have been many cases of semen ariving and they contianer has lost its capacity to keep it frozen. The people who i talked to said that they would only use it for ground shipping ,but for any air shipping and to be sure your semen arrives safely to use the dry shippers that usually need shipping back to the semen center they came from .The one way disposable containers are in theory supposed to do the job , but doing my research i found out that there have been many case were the containers failed .

    BelOW are so,e reports from a people using the disposable containers , and as in this case many vets and facilties that store and ship frozen semen will not use the disposable containers for the same reasons outlined below .That said if you want to take a chance and the semen is not rare or expensive , maybe trying the disposable could be a more cost effective way to go , but i personally decided to take the hit of the shipping on the dry shipper both ways as the semen was not going to be available again .

    BELOW ARE SOME REPORTS FORM USER OF THE CRYODRUM

    My repro. vet feels the same way about them as Sunnydays' does. She had an entire shipment of a client's semen lost when the disposable shattered and also doesn't like the fact that the semen is exposed to ambient temperature as she removes it. She will no longer accept semen sent in a disposable.

    May. 5, 2010, 05:24 AM
    Just in reference to the few threads about Cryodrums... we just had another shipment go bad. A new Cryodrum, filled as per instructions to the correct weight etc. failed to hold and thawed out 8 straws of semen that was sent overnight.

    It didn't even hold for 20 hours! It's the 2nd time this has happened to us (I was told the first time was a 1 in 1,000,000; and we haven't sent 999,999 shipments since then!), and heralds the end of us using Cryodrums... it's a shame because the product is a good idea, but that lack of reliability makes it impossible for us to continue using them.

    Just our experience and my opionion, of course!


    I have had five shipments with Cryodrum in the last 12 months. Two have worked, one of which was because I took it from the National Stud stocking centre to the UK in my car. The other three have lost 6 doses of Flipper d'Elle and two doses of Mighty Magic (two of these shipments Jamie was talking about above).

    Yes, they were a good idea and are manufactured about 20 minutes from my farm, but I now cannot trust them with 3 out of five going wrong.

    As well, my vet says she worries because the internal container is of an easily shattered material (as in some drinking thermoses), and she doesn't think it could withstand falls or hard knocks. I would be reluctant to use, unless I was carrying it in my own car for a trip of some hours.

    I hope this helps you , but my advice is use the dry shipper unless your able to ground ship , but most semen banks dont like to ship frozen semen unless they use a dry shipper so if the semen you want to ship to your local repro vet is one of those that wont use anything else but a dry shipper .
    I know ground shipping a dry shipper is not so expensive as air shipping and if you are looking to ship inside the usa the ground shipping cost is not like someone having to dry ship internationaly which can cost upwards of $1000 to $2000 plus .

    Ps the type mentioned in ca jacks dvds are fresh semen containers there cheap to buy but only for fresh chilled semen not frozen ok.
    Last edited by projectx; 10-25-2013 at 12:47 PM. Reason: forgot some info

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