Redboy / jocko has made more dead game dogs !

[EWO]

Here we go...

U know those Hollingsworth hounds look alot like redboy hounds.

[Officially Retired]

U know those Hollingsworth hounds look alot like redboy hounds.

They do have a similarity, at first blush, true.

But, having put my hands on both, the Hollingsworth dogs were more muscular, and had a greater density and strength to them.

This is why, bred pure, they could actually go 2 hours with some of the baddest match dogs alive, while not many pure RB dogs can do that.

Jack

[waccamaw]

Wac who is your best producing stud? I've been interested in your blood forever. I tried to get something from you years ago but talked to you once and couldn't get you aagain. So I went this way and it turned out good. http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=15857 I shouldn't have let her go

All my studs are producing great ,that is why they are my studs we are very strict on breeding ,but different peeps have their favs ,some like rattler a lot and some swear by little thunder and crazy eyes jr .

[Officially Retired]

Well, all I can tell you is no pedigree program on earth, nor any knowledgeable dogman I know, would call those two dogs "related" ...

There are 2046 dogs in a 10-gen pedigree, so (sorry) if Teal's Sarge is in there 7-gen back a couple times it means nothing.

Calling the dogs "related" would be the text book definition of a "stretch" ...

[waccamaw]

With bulldogs you got to know where you came from to know where you gonna go or else you just gonna get lost

[waccamaw]

Any way you want to twist it jack ,they both go back to laposy and jocko goes back to dibo.

[Officially Retired]

Actually, it's any way you want to misunderstand it.
Because if anyone is doing some twisting it's you.

Bolio dogs go back to Dibo at some point.
So do Eli dogs.
So do a lot of other dogs.
It does NOT mean they're the same bloodline or even remotely related.
Relatedness depends on QUANTITY of dogs and/or their POSITION within the pedigree.
And there are almost ZERO dog in common in the two dogs' peds. Literally almost zero.
And their position in relation to their pedigrees is absolutely meaningless.

There isn't a single common dog anywhere in a 6-generation pedigree.
There isn't a single common dog anywhere in a 7-generation pedigree.
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """""""""""""8-generation pedigree. Not one.

Again, we should simply agree to disagree.

In your eyes, I am wrong, I am "twisting things," the pedigree coefficient is wrong, etc.
In my eyes, you simply don't know what you're talking about if you think Tornado has anything whatsoever to do with RBJ dogs.

So we can just leave it like that.

Jack

[waccamaw]

Actually, it's any way you want to misunderstand it.
Because if anyone is doing some twisting it's you.

Bolio dogs go back to Dibo at some point.
So do Eli dogs.
So do a lot of other dogs.
It does NOT mean they're the same bloodline or even remotely related.
Relatedness depends on QUANTITY of dogs and/or their POSITION within the pedigree.
And there are almost ZERO dog in common in the two dogs' peds. Literally almost zero.
And their position in relation to their pedigrees is absolutely meaningless.

There isn't a single common dog anywhere in a 6-generation pedigree.
There isn't a single common dog anywhere in a 7-generation pedigree.
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """""""""""""8-generation pedigree. Not one.

Again, we should simply agree to disagree.

In your eyes, I am wrong, I am "twisting things," the pedigree coefficient is wrong, etc.
In my eyes, you simply don't know what you're talking about if you think Tornado has anything whatsoever to do with RBJ dogs.

So we can just leave it like that.

Jack

Anyway you want to say it jack they both go back to laposy ,just like jocko goes back to dibo.and I never said tornado had anything to do with RBJ ,I said they go back to the same dogs .meaning if tornado had it they could and many do have as well .

[waccamaw]

I know those Hollingsworth dogs aren't what you say they are and they never were !! The best Hollingsworth dogs came when the old man bred to yellow ,just like the best mayday dogs came when bred back to RBJ .or maybe those Hollingsworth dogs were on the same planet that buck beat jr on .

[Officially Retired]

I do understand what you're saying ... but (for example) at 10 generations, Poncho is 15% Dibo ... and Big John is 0% Dibo ...

But at 14 generations Big John is 7% Dibo ... so Poncho and Big John (at vastly different points in their pedigrees) do share Dibo a bit ... but that doesn't mean they are even remotely related.

Hope this makes sense.