I agree. There is no doubt Frisco produced some top class animals. Especially with the lee ling breedings. But percentage wise, I find it hard to believe he would be up there with Buck, Yellow, Jeep and may other famous producing dogs. On the other hand, it would be interesting if more Frisco dogs would've ended up in more competitive hands. Garner sells dogs to almost anyone with the cash, hell my grandma probably could by dogs from him. It's like the saying: If you throw enough shit on the wall, some should stick. An impressive producer to me is one that in a few breedings make a big impact on the breed. Or one that produces solid bulldogs no matter what it's bred to.