Tom is a very hard person to deal with and respect. I purchased many dogs off him and like you every trip which is a total of 15 hour drive was a hard one. Every dog I wanted was already sold or not for sale. I got 1 good dog and the other 7 were rank culls. The good dog was the first and cheapest one from him which is why I kept going back. He cursed me out In our first meeting when I asked him about dyno's match times. I used to think Tom was a honest man but lie after lie and insult after insult I would much rather not even own a bulldog then get one from Garner. I also had the opportunity to call Cali Jack. I wish I would have spoke to him long before I called Tom. He was very polite and honest in every conversation we had. Even though I was not able to get a dog from him he still showed me respect. And I respect him for that. I tried not to believe the stories surrounding Tom but when you live through more than one lie you realize that there is much truth to the rumors. From the lies about Bobby Peru to the lies about my male and his breeding I cant see why anyone would pay that much money to a ungrateful prick for a lifetime of confusion regarding your dogs pedigree. Every dog I bought based on the traits and qualities of the line were total opposite of what it should have been. If your planning on getting a chinaman dog my advice to you is look for someone who has good ones from Tom and get a pup from them. Your chances will be higher in getting a dog that your looking for.