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    Give each as much credit as they deserve...i think its simple as that. If the breeder acquired two dogs from someone else, bred them together and voila ... passed them on... id say they deserve very little credit. Same with a man who didn't put much work into his dog and won a match.

    Some breeders are half assed where as others bring out the HAMMER and go through them dogs to create very consistent results. Why would you not give credit to the later?

    Same with those who match some walk them around the neighborhood and others hit the books finding the best diet, supplements, and training techniques. Schooling their dogs out right and taking the time to find the optimum weight. Once again the later deserves credit also.

    Those who match need breeders and those who breed need folks to match their dogs. Its a mutualistic symbiotic relationship, two dissimilar organisms living together in a relationship that benefits both parties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CA Jack View Post
    1. Generally, if a breeder is a good one, he cares about the fate of his dogs.

    2. If he is a good breeder, then he generally knows more about dogs than the average dogman, who can't seem to put his own two dogs together well enough to create his own winners.

    3. In knowing more about dogs than the average dogman, the good breeder tries to give good advice to the people who buy his dogs.

    4. Unfortunately, most of the people who buy dogs (because they're not at the same level) ignore the good advice given and try to do things "their own way" ... usually recklessly ... and usually with the miserable results the breeder could see were going to happen.

    5. As a result of this, the good breeder will become extremely angry a) that his good advice was ignored and b) because his good dog is now fucked up ... while the substandard dogman, who didn't listen to the good advice and who fucked up, will then have to decide if a) he wants to admit his mistake, learn from it, and never do it again or b) he wants to defend his stupidity, fail to learn and grow, and continue to be a bottom-dweller in the sport.

    That has been my continual observations after breeding winners all over the world, for over 23 years, and watching the difference in results between good customers and shitty ones.

    Thanks for the question,

    Jack
    Quote Originally Posted by CA Jack View Post
    When a the typical blowhard wins, he likes to take all the credit himself.
    When the typical blowhard loses, he likes to put all the blame on the dog (and the breeder).

    When a good dogman wins, he tends to thank the breeder for the good dog ... and the breeder tends to thank the good dogman for doing the dog right.

    Funny how that works out ...

    Jack
    Quote Originally Posted by SteelyDan View Post
    Give each as much credit as they deserve...i think its simple as that. If the breeder acquired two dogs from someone else, bred them together and voila ... passed them on... id say they deserve very little credit. Same with a man who didn't put much work into his dog and won a match.

    Some breeders are half assed where as others bring out the HAMMER and go through them dogs to create very consistent results. Why would you not give credit to the later?

    Same with those who match some walk them around the neighborhood and others hit the books finding the best diet, supplements, and training techniques. Schooling their dogs out right and taking the time to find the optimum weight. Once again the later deserves credit also.

    Those who match need breeders and those who breed need folks to match their dogs. Its a mutualistic symbiotic relationship, two dissimilar organisms living together in a relationship that benefits both parties.
    I picked these 3 posts as they represent how I feel and in my opinion are 100% truths. Especially Jacks 2nd post I quoted...

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