When u buy a dog who dog it really is

[Officially Retired]

I may ask for info from my breeder bc he does know the dogs back ground better then myself but I see my dogs as my dogs. I have no problem letting people know I'm not the breeder and giving someone credit on a job well done when it comes to the breeding but that's it. Far as winning unless the breeder puts in time and or money I don't see why he/she should have any claim to any wins. At most the only credit they should get is being able to put two dogs together that produced a winner. I think breeders forget that old saying about it taking more then just a good dog

Mmmmm, that's not giving enough credit to the breeder. That's like saying the race car driver is more important than being in a truly world class race car. The best driver is worth nothing without a good car to sit in. Thus THE AUTO MAKER is the most important, then the driver.

Sure, a lousy driver can crash a great car, but even a ho-hum driver can still compete and "go fast" if he's sitting in a truly-fast car to begin with ... while even the best driver in the world can't do shit sitting inside a Toyota Corolla

THE most important part of any race is a truly world class car ... from there, what matters are the drivers, but ALL OF THEM (win or lose) need a world class car FIRST in order to be in the running to compete. Because, in a good car, even so-so divers are still going awful damn fast

Back to this, any retard with a great dog can still crash and burn with his stupidity at the helm of greatness, but plenty of novices with great dogs (who have them in halfway decent shape) have beaten great dogmen with just "pretty good" dogs ...

Jack

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Mmmmm, that's not giving enough credit to the breeder. That's like saying the race car driver is more important than being in a truly world class race car. The best driver is worth nothing without a good car to sit in. Thus THE AUTO MAKER is the most important, then the driver.

Sure, a lousy driver can crash a great car, but even a ho-hum driver can still compete and "go fast" if he's sitting in a truly-fast car to begin with ... while even the best driver in the world can't do shit sitting inside a Toyota Corolla

THE most important part of any race is a truly world class car ... from there, what matters are the drivers, but ALL OF THEM (win or lose) need a world class car FIRST in order to be in the running to compete. Because, in a good car, even so-so divers are still going awful damn fast

Back to this, any retard with a great dog can still crash and burn with his stupidity at the helm of greatness, but plenty of novices with great dogs (who have them in halfway decent shape) have beaten great dogmen with just "pretty good" dogs ...

Jack

Your right any bum with a top end car can race he can go fast but this is about winning. Top class race cars will never press the gas, shift, take a turn or enter a e.t with out a drive and I have seen many vw bugs with top drivers win on Saturday night at the drag strip against top end drag cars with shitty drivers because they knew what to do and how to do it from enter the e.t to watching the tree

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Mmmmm, that's not giving enough credit to the breeder. That's like saying the race car driver is more important than being in a truly world class race car. The best driver is worth nothing without a good car to sit in. Thus THE AUTO MAKER is the most important, then the driver.

Sure, a lousy driver can crash a great car, but even a ho-hum driver can still compete and "go fast" if he's sitting in a truly-fast car to begin with ... while even the best driver in the world can't do shit sitting inside a Toyota Corolla

THE most important part of any race is a truly world class car ... from there, what matters are the drivers, but ALL OF THEM (win or lose) need a world class car FIRST in order to be in the running to compete. Because, in a good car, even so-so divers are still going awful damn fast

Back to this, any retard with a great dog can still crash and burn with his stupidity at the helm of greatness, but plenty of novices with great dogs (who have them in halfway decent shape) have beaten great dogmen with just "pretty good" dogs ...

Jack

and the world class car is nothing without a world class racer. the breeder knows traits and knows when the dogs should start and those type of things but the competitor is the one who is raising that pup into a world class athlete he is the one who day and night feeds that dog waters that dog and conditions that dog. now to me a keep starts at eight weeks old not just eight weeks long so i give my self a little more credit because it is me and my dogs blood sweat and tears that are entering the battlefield the breeder gets credit for breeding a winner but not the win because he was not handling conditioning or giving the dog medical attention i do those things so i get the credit for the win and the breeder gets the credit for knowing how to put the genes together to create that winner