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Again, I don't subscribe to the "game or cur" theory.

I agree and think the dog sounds like a green prospect with some talent.
I do subscribe to both labels, but I certainly think each have levels to them. I agree he was green.

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The foot has a ton of nerve endings on it, and a green tired dog is a green tired dog.

Whether he would take his death, or not, is of no importance.
Yep, seen good dogs get upset with a foot hold! Right, what is important in the aspect we are speaking is can he win? And yes he did.

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Whether he has the ability to win, and runs his scratches good, is all that matters.
That's right!
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Hesitating on a scratch bothers me more than a confused, dominant, young dog on top.

Is the dog an ace? Hardly.
Agree

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IMO, I want to see my dog with DOG in his mouth ... or trying to GET dog in his mouth.
When I see any dog just sitting there, not trying to get dog in his mouth, I am looking at a replaceable animal IMO.

Dogs that lay out of holds, when ahead, or who stay on top (like king of the mountain) are only peripheral-quality dogs to me, regardless of other talents.
I agree, not the case with this particular dog at all. He just had a few very brief moments of collecting his thoughts. At least how I look at it as the rest of the entire time he was busy. You call it "dog in mouth" I call it "busy", same thing.

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It is a form of "lack of focus" to me, which can easily be translated into lack of gameness.
This is golden...no focus no will. The will to continue is the defining term in a game display.
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That said, if the dog is young, I wouldn't be judging him yet.
Agreed

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But if it was an experienced dog, I certainly wouldn't build a bloodline on him.
Jack
I don't think the dog was schooled enough, to me the moves looked to be frustration out of never being in a defensive position. He's a pretty good little dog who I bet will look the part next time.

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