The Undesirables

[FrostyPaws]

S_B no disrespect taken and you actually have me thinking how to explain this lol, great example. I believe that little black dog had his fill that day. No matter how long he went he also left some things to be desired. I wouldn't say POS cur because he was shock blind at the point of truth telling. I just acknowledged he was stopped and was a good little game dog though not a proven game loss and I do believe the bond kept him going a good deal. He took more than most and I see his case as the difference between cur and stopped. He couldn't see the hand being waved a few inches in front his face, started out the corner off a clap stumbling to a neutral corner. You see what I'm saying it's more a reason and situation. It's not so much anybody would question the heart shown. I get the degrees deal completely but I don't think exceptions and reasons or situations need a label as its described. Minus the reasons and situations some just can take more than others. In most it'll create a stigma to question objective and have them looking for the reason each one quit.

I don't mean any disrespect toward the dog either. Yes, the little black dog had his fill that day, but that was more due to his style than anything else. With a different style, that dog would've went home a winner and be alive. What kept him going, IMO, was his ability to negate any serious damage after about the first hour. We all saw what dog was in better shape that day, and I think that's where the style comes into play. A little different style, and the black dog comes to the top and it's for his taking. Instead, he did what he'd done the entire time, and that was just hold without advancing into any type of serious offense. I personally don't think he took more than most. He succumbed to a battle of attrition, not outright brutality coupled with everything else that goes along with that. Either way, I was extremely proud of the black dog and his owner. I just wish the dog would've been a little more. His owner had done his job as he needed to do.

[S_B]

I don't mean any disrespect toward the dog either. Yes, the little black dog had his fill that day, but that was more due to his style than anything else. With a different style, that dog would've went home a winner and be alive. What kept him going, IMO, was his ability to negate any serious damage after about the first hour. We all saw what dog was in better shape that day, and I think that's where the style comes into play. A little different style, and the black dog comes to the top and it's for his taking. Instead, he did what he'd done the entire time, and that was just hold without advancing into any type of serious offense. I personally don't think he took more than most. He succumbed to a battle of attrition, not outright brutality coupled with everything else that goes along with that. Either way, I was extremely proud of the black dog and his owner. I just wish the dog would've been a little more. His owner had done his job as he needed to do.

Fuck yes!!!! I agree with you wholeheartedly on this, he did not want the fight so he was smart enough to hold out his opponent for 2:17, that's nothing to scoff at. But a truly game dog he was not, he could have gone, he simply had enough of playing keep away. I don't think he was in shock nor blind, he was just flat our worn out and done. But a pretty damn smart fella he was to avoid what he did, no shame in that.

S_B

[EGK]

Fuck yes!!!! I agree with you wholeheartedly on this, he did not want the fight so he was smart enough to hold out his opponent for 2:17, that's nothing to scoff at. But a truly game dog he was not, he could have gone, he simply had enough of playing keep away. I don't think he was in shock nor blind, he was just flat our worn out and done. But a pretty damn smart fella he was to avoid what he did, no shame in that.

S_B

See in either manner or opinion it's not a degree of gameness to it. He simply checked out and left more to be desired. That's not something I'd want to have at question in my program or feel really needs a label of concern. It's just one you move forward from and say good show. Not game is simply not game. If his owner had blown the keep its simply a blown keep and a decision to make is more my view of it in line with the topic. I wouldn't put a degree of gameness on it though. It is just and opinion at the end of the day and with different experience and the amount that opinion may vary in my humble opinion.

[S_B]

See in either manner or opinion it's not a degree of gameness to it. He simply checked out and left more to be desired. That's not something I'd want to have at question in my program or feel really needs a label of concern. It's just one you move forward from and say good show. Not game is simply not game. If his owner had blown the keep its simply a blown keep and a decision to make is more my view of it in line with the topic. I wouldn't put a degree of gameness on it though. It is just and opinion at the end of the day and with different experience and the amount that opinion may vary in my humble opinion.

EGK,

That dog was a pretty "pit" game dog, game enough to hang in there longer than a lot would and take what he did. This is what makes these dogs special...the different perspectives. Would I call him a game dog, no, but he sure as hell wasn't a rank cur.

S_B