How or where do dogs get their style ? Opinions please.

[EWO]

I like this answer. Especially "Remember you aren't out to impress but to get that win".

I think this gets lost a lot. I know nothing of Titere and this by no means is a sign of disrespect but it amazes me people will question a dog's performance. And just using him as an example. If he won all the matches if less than :30 each, it will be some that will question the competition. If it took him 2 plus hours four or five times some will question his ability or desire to finish. And the part that always gets me is that if five-ten-fifteen years from now if Titere turns out not to be a producer (again no disrespect) the lack of production somehow will diminish his performance career.

For me what makes Titere special, and not knowing anything about him, is that he went in and came out a bunch of times, by any means necessary. The object is to get in and get out as quick as you can. The dog does not get to pick and choose his competition yet he is the one who is held accountable. And on top of that he has to have style points. And on top of that he has to go on to produce to sort of validate his performances.

Ch. Charlie was farmed from his breeder to DTA. Odds are he could have won a few more. He basically had no faults. After his first he didn't take a lot of damage. He positioned himself in a defensive manner yet delivered the wood. He had that style, and then when it needed to change it did, and after a rough first one he mauled three really good dogs. Dogs that had won and if they had not crossed his path, maybe win some more. The kicker is he has had only a few breedings and thus he is not a well known 4XW.

It is funny that as rough as the dogs are, and the owners as well, it can be a fickle bunch at the same time. EWO

Well going to throw my two cents in the mix. I raised and schooled Gr Ch Titere. He was the only one out of the litter that wasn't single minded. He would use your style against you till he got his way and then it was just a matter of time. Remember you aren't out to impress but to get that win. And the stiffer the competition the harder it is to get your way. I do believe you can breed your animals to have a specific style. I have three generations of dogs on the ground off Panthro Jr. who was the best producer of that litter and all have smarts but are back end monsters. To really key on that specific trait you must have animals that pass the trait along on constantly and be fairly tightly bred.

[ragedog10]

That's what me and my partner said about him doesn't have to impress but be effective and get the win 8x's. Most have no true concept on how to breed dog's, they breed papers instead of traits.

[Nitaino]

You have to know where they come from before you can set your path. So paper work is important in its own rite. You really couldn't expect a battle cross to produce consistently. If you have to breed sixty pups to get a winner there is your answer. You can't take things personally in these animals and become dog blind. Be true to yourself and your animals and you will get what you are looking for. Don't get me wrong he is the Man and his blood runs in my whole yard but figured a few things out and its working much better but just can't give that information out like that. Lol.

[HAMMER49]

You have to know where they come from before you can set your path. So paper work is important in its own rite. You really couldn't expect a battle cross to produce consistently. If you have to breed sixty pups to get a winner there is your answer. You can't take things personally in these animals and become dog blind. Be true to yourself and your animals and you will get what you are looking for. Don't get me wrong he is the Man and his blood runs in my whole yard but figured a few things out and its working much better but just can't give that information out like that. Lol.

Beautiful Statement you made there.
I made a breeding to him, and hopefully it comes together just like your "new" recipe does.

[Nitaino]

Beautiful Statement you made there.
I made a breeding to him, and hopefully it comes together just like your "new" recipe does.

Hope you have success with your breeding also. I have it pretty well figured out and will get a chance to prove it this up coming year when they are old enough to dance. Schooling has shown extremely talented and devastating animals. Now what is left is to bring it when it counts consistently.

[bossman311]

What do yall think of a dog who develops a style to keep dogs out of areas he or she doesn't want to get bit ? lets say a head dog for instance ,why does he go to the head ? is it because he doesn't want to get bit in the rear ? Now would you call this offensive or defensive style or both ? I have noticed on some of mine when you pet the head and work your way towards the rear the closer to the rear you get the more alert they become.Ok now say a rear end dog ,he goes for the rear because he doesn't want to get bit in the head ? So same question is it offensive or defensive or both ? And wonder how many folks got bit trying to pet the head of one of these ? just looking for some opinions.

Bloodline.
They learn more in hunting but breed like dogs & you'll get like dogs.

[EWO]

Bloodline.
They learn more in hunting but breed like dogs & you'll get like dogs.

This is true. Most of our dogs are true head and face dogs. CH. Charlie no different. In schooling he never had anything go into his rear end, or even try. He won his first and the camp went out and picked a bad ass RBJ dog for payback. He had RIP a couple being a killer rear end/gut fighter. Our thinking, and thinking out loud to one another, Charlie should be able to hold him out and even get him out. The man said release and Charlie scratched right into his ass, spun him north-south and took everything out of him in 10 minutes. He did not make it over at 40.

Charlie had never been bit in the ass nor had he ever bit one on the ass til that night. Either he heard us talking or he knew. Really weird.

Most dogs have a style. Schooling prepares them for other styles. They learn to defend themselves defensively or they learn to defend themselves offensively.

S

[bossman311]

This is true. Most of our dogs are true head and face dogs. CH. Charlie no different. In schooling he never had anything go into his rear end, or even try. He won his first and the camp went out and picked a bad ass RBJ dog for payback. He had RIP a couple being a killer rear end/gut fighter. Our thinking, and thinking out loud to one another, Charlie should be able to hold him out and even get him out. The man said release and Charlie scratched right into his ass, spun him north-south and took everything out of him in 10 minutes. He did not make it over at 40.

Charlie had never been bit in the ass nor had he ever bit one on the ass til that night. Either he heard us talking or he knew. Really weird.

Most dogs have a style. Schooling prepares them for other styles. They learn to defend themselves defensively or they learn to defend themselves offensively.

S

Yes Sir that's it!