I've been adding Nupro supplement to my dogs' raw diet for many years. http://www.nupro.com/
I've been adding Nupro supplement to my dogs' raw diet for many years. http://www.nupro.com/
I use the "pro sense canine multivitamin" from wally world. $5 for a bottle of 80 & i believe theyre liver flavored. My dogs think theyre "treats"...
Thank you everyone. Lots of good ideas here. I appreciate the input.
if the object of feeding the dogs a raw diet is to give them a better and healthier diet, one which avoids them having to take in the many undesirable and sometimes harmfull products found in dry food, then why are we looking at feeding them cheap raw chicken for example that is only cheap because of the way it has been produced ,by feeding the chickens the cheapest food they can , then pumping those same chickens full of antibiotics and steroids , which guess what goes into your dogs system , so when people are talking about feeding raw because they got 40ilbs for $20, that's actually not a good deal at all ,if the health of your dog is actually what your trying to inhance , theirs always a reason why things are cheap , quality always costs more and for a reason, so why feed meat which has been raised on terrible food itself in squalid conditions and then pumped full of drugs, and think its going to be good for either you or your dog to eat ? it just doesn't make sense does it, and if you can spend money on bee pollen which is very expensive, then i would say spend the money on organic or at least good quality free range chicken or meat that you can verify has not been pumped full of drugs , otherwise why bother feeding a raw product that is just as bad as most kibbles , apart from the fact it makes us feel better psycholgically that were feeding raw .
Last edited by Kimo615; 02-13-2016 at 11:28 AM. Reason: spelling mistake
Good point in theory.
But the cheaply fed and medicated chicken is still better. The biggest deal with the cheaper dry foods is that a lot of the things the dog needs is cooked out of the dry food.
I agree it would be better to upgrade to an organic and/or naturally fed free range chicken. But an econo-raw program is better that an econo-dry program. The econo-raw is still comparable to some of the high end dry foods.
I do the econo version myself and still feed dry food on occasion. Neither is perfect. One better than the other but one more convenient than the other.
When it is way cold outside like it is now I feed the econo raw version as a normal feeding. Then early evening I make a chicken broth/veggie mix with dry food. Basically it is cheap calories on the colder nights.
Good series of posts.
EWO
Hi ewo, im not sure i agree that the econo is better than kibble , eventhough all kibble is heated , because there are some very good quality kibbles out there which don't have the drugs in them like the cheap chicken and other meats have in them, so if i could only afford cheap drug filled meat , i might still be looking at the better quality kibble and then add some other quality extras ,because we do have the info these days on why those chickens are so cheap , and im still not convinced that feeding my dogs meat that is basically poisend and not going to be good for my dogs long term health is a good idea , and if folks can afford to buy bee pollen which is not cheap to add to their dogs feed, then why are they not buying good quality meat rather than cheap discount meat full of drugs, that's completely defeating the purpose of adding other products like bee pollen when the main feed is drug filled chicken , its like a fat man going to the gym to shed some weight then when he gets home eats a tub of ice cream which he thinks is ok because hes been to the gym so psychologically he feels like he not doing anything wrong , which defeats the purpose of going to the gym in the first place .Originally Posted by EWO
Econo raw diet is still vastly superior to dry dog food......which is essentially sawdust with a vitamin. Road kill would be a better option than dry kibble.
While cattle are given steroids/growth hormones, it's been illegal For decades in the poultry industry.
I agree that most kibbles are not ideal, but there are some good quality ones, but they cost a lot more , and I think your mistaken about what chickens are pumped full of these days , they are still being pumped full of anitbiotics and steroids to increase size and shorten the growth time, and the anitbiotics are to keep them alive as they die from disease and the squalid conditons and poor feed they get to eat they just use a different terminology to get around any laws , so If I could only afford cheap chicken or any meat produced by the meat industry under those conditions, then I would rather spend more on the best kibble and then add top quality extras like bee pollen and oils veggies etc , because lets face it there is a reason you can buy chicken so cheap and its not because its going to be good for you or your dogs long term health , infact its designed not to be good of our health , but that's another debate about human depopulation and the food industrys involvement in that.
I don't think I'm mistaken. Yes, they are given antibiotics, but not growth hormone or steroids. If they are they are doing so illegally. I imagine there are other ways to cut the price than pumping chicken full of drugs....which I'm not sure would decrease the price anyway......drugs cost money.
Sorry, but I don't get your logic regarding the less expensive chicken. You wouldn't feed it, but you would feed dog food that probably uses even less expensive chicken, then burns it into kibble.
imo, that human approved chicken is still 100x better than any bag of dog food.
im not saying that kibble is better than good quality chicken , what I am saying is that I would prefer to feed a top quality
kibble which is out there and add top quality supplements rather than feed chickens which are fed absolute crap as feed and also pumped full of antibiotics which then get into the dogs system and our own if we eat them , if the whole purpose of feeding raw is to not feed our dogs the crap contained in most kibbles , so why feed chicken that's is no better full of drugs,when there are some top quality kibbles out there which don't have all the crap the others do ,and use better protein sources than other kibbles do ,and at least we know that until we can afford the better chicken then at least is not going to kill our dogs any quicker feeding them top kibble rather than bad kibble or crap chicken .
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