ECONO RAW FEED PROGRAM

[Kimo615]

Econo raw diet is still vastly superior to dry dog food......which is essentially sawdust with a vitamin. Road kill would be a better option than dry kibble.

While cattle are given steroids/growth hormones, it's been illegal since the 50's in the poultry industry.

I agree that most kibbles are not ideal, but there are some good quality ones, but they cost a lot more , and I think your mistaken about what chickens are pumped full of these days , they are still being pumped full of anitbiotics and steroids to increase size and shorten the growth time, and the anitbiotics are to keep them alive as they die from disease and the squalid conditons and poor feed they get to eat they just use a different terminology to get around any laws , so If I could only afford cheap chicken or any meat produced by the meat industry under those conditions, then I would rather spend more on the best kibble and then add top quality extras like bee pollen and oils veggies etc , because lets face it there is a reason you can buy chicken so cheap and its not because its going to be good for you or your dogs long term health , infact its designed not to be good of our health , but that's another debate about human depopulation and the food industrys involvement in that.

[Tastyrib]

I agree that most kibbles are not ideal, but there are some good quality ones, but they cost a lot more , and I think your mistaken about what chickens are pumped full of these days , they are still being pumped full of anitbiotics and steroids to increase size and shorten the growth time, and the anitbiotics are to keep them alive as they die from disease and the squalid conditons and poor feed they get to eat they just use a different terminology to get around any laws , so If I could only afford cheap chicken or any meat produced by the meat industry under those conditions, then I would rather spend more on the best kibble and then add top quality extras like bee pollen and oils veggies etc , because lets face it there is a reason you can buy chicken so cheap and its not because its going to be good for you or your dogs long term health , infact its designed not to be good of our health , but that's another debate about human depopulation and the food industrys involvement in that.

I don't think I'm mistaken. Yes, they are given antibiotics, but not growth hormone or steroids. If they are they are doing so illegally. I imagine there are other ways to cut the price than pumping chicken full of drugs....which I'm not sure would decrease the price anyway......drugs cost money.

Sorry, but I don't get your logic regarding the less expensive chicken. You wouldn't feed it, but you would feed dog food that probably uses even less expensive chicken, then burns it into kibble.

imo, that human approved chicken is still 100x better than any bag of dog food.

[Kimo615]

I don't think I'm mistaken. Yes, they are given antibiotics, but not growth hormone or steroids. If they are they are doing so illegally. I imagine there are other ways to cut the price than pumping chicken full of drugs....which I'm not sure would decrease the price anyway......drugs cost money.

Sorry, but I don't get your logic regarding the less expensive chicken. You wouldn't feed it, but you would feed dog food that probably uses even less expensive chicken, then burns it into kibble.

imo, that human approved chicken is still 100x better than any bag of dog food.

im not saying that kibble is better than good quality chicken , what I am saying is that I would prefer to feed a top quality
kibble which is out there and add top quality supplements rather than feed chickens which are fed absolute crap as feed and also pumped full of antibiotics which then get into the dogs system and our own if we eat them , if the whole purpose of feeding raw is to not feed our dogs the crap contained in most kibbles , so why feed chicken that's is no better full of drugs,when there are some top quality kibbles out there which don't have all the crap the others do ,and use better protein sources than other kibbles do ,and at least we know that until we can afford the better chicken then at least is not going to kill our dogs any quicker feeding them top kibble rather than bad kibble or crap chicken .

[Tastyrib]

im not saying that kibble is better than good quality chicken , what I am saying is that I would prefer to feed a top quality
kibble which is out there and add top quality supplements rather than feed chickens which are fed absolute crap as feed and also pumped full of antibiotics which then get into the dogs system and our own if we eat them , if the whole purpose of feeding raw is to not feed our dogs the crap contained in most kibbles , so why feed chicken that's is no better full of drugs,when there are some top quality kibbles out there which don't have all the crap the others do ,and use better protein sources than other kibbles do ,and at least we know that until we can afford the better chicken then at least is not going to kill our dogs any quicker feeding them top kibble rather than bad kibble or crap chicken .

I know that's not what you are saying. I just disagree. Even crap chicken is better than kibble IMO. Hell, the truth is most chickens are pumped full of antibiotics and housed in poor conditions....whether they cost .39 lb or 1.50 lb. If people want chicken free of drugs they will have to do what you do and feed free range from a a small farm.....which isn't viable for most.

But we can agree to disagree.