conditioning on raw ( water in take)

[OGDOGG]

I don't leave bowls of water for the dogs period. Only if I have them on the chain then I'll leave a bowl of water for them because its the law. Even then, my dogs won't drink any anyway. The only way I can get them to drink water is when I'm feeding them. That's when Ill fill their bowl 3/4 of water plus their food in a medium size bowl. That'll keep them hydrate for 24 hours. So yes I take away their bowl of water during their keep, but when they eat, they had enough water to last them until tomorrow. I know exactly what you're talking about when you mentioned dex. That's one way of bringing in your dog to make weight but let me be the one to tell you that that's also another way for you to lose a match. When you're using dex before the show, you're dog is constantly losing moisture, if he can seal the deal in short order like around 30 minutes or less then it'll be fine. But if he can't then hell be in trouble and will look thinner and thinner as the deal goes longer. By the hour mark, he'll look like a skeleton because he is dehydrated.
I do want as much water in them as long as they're willing to drink it. And in order for them to drink the water I have to add it to their feed. You could give them as much as you want, by the 24 hour mark, all that water in their system will be gone already so you'll get their pit weight every time you weigh them after they're empty.
I do this all through their keep until 24 hrs before the show. You want them to be hydrated during the show so they could last 2-3 hours strong! Throughout your keep you don't take water away from them so why would you do it 1-2 days before the show? It don't make sense.
Every time I put one in a keep, I am not aiming at a short deal, but instead a long deal like around 2-3 hours. So in order for my dog to last that long, he has to work 4-6 hours on his working days and in order for him to work that long, he has to be hydrated.

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I don't leave bowls of water for the dogs period. Only if I have them on the chain then I'll leave a bowl of water for them because its the law. Even then, my dogs won't drink any anyway. The only way I can get them to drink water is when I'm feeding them. That's when Ill fill their bowl 3/4 of water plus their food in a medium size bowl. That'll keep them hydrate for 24 hours. So yes I take away their bowl of water during their keep, but when they eat, they had enough water to last them until tomorrow. I know exactly what you're talking about when you mentioned dex. That's one way of bringing in your dog to make weight but let me be the one to tell you that that's also another way for you to lose a match. When you're using dex before the show, you're dog is constantly losing moisture, if he can seal the deal in short order like around 30 minutes or less then it'll be fine. But if he can't then hell be in trouble and will look thinner and thinner as the deal goes longer. By the hour mark, he'll look like a skeleton because he is dehydrated.

Well said.

I do want as much water in them as long as they're willing to drink it. And in order for them to drink the water I have to add it to their feed. You could give them as much as you want, by the 24 hour mark, all that water in their system will be gone already so you'll get their pit weight every time you weigh them after they're empty.
I do this all through their keep until 24 hrs before the show. You want them to be hydrated during the show so they could last 2-3 hours strong! Throughout your keep you don't take water away from them so why would you do it 1-2 days before the show? It don't make sense.

Agreed.

Every time I put one in a keep, I am not aiming at a short deal, but instead a long deal like around 2-3 hours. So in order for my dog to last that long, he has to work 4-6 hours on his working days and in order for him to work that long, he has to be hydrated.

I am curious why you think a dog that goes 2-3 hours needs to be worked 4-6 hours?

Boxers in training for a 12-round fight do not "practice" by sparring for 24 rounds.
Sprinters who run a 100-yd dash do not "practice" for this event by running 200-yd dashes.

I guess if you add up all the training a boxer does during the day, it adds-up to more time than when he's actually in the ring, but even then they train several times a day (morning run, then mid-afternoon workout, them maybe sparring in the evening, etc.) They don't do it all in one large "block" of time.

So with that said I am curious, when you train your dogs, do you make them train for 6 hours straight or do you train them 6 hours total, at different times of the day?

Thanks for sharing,

Jack

[OGDOGG]

Well said.





Agreed.





I am curious why you think a dog that goes 2-3 hours needs to be worked 4-6 hours?

Boxers in training for a 12-round fight do not "practice" by sparring for 24 rounds.
Sprinters who run a 100-yd dash do not "practice" for this event by running 200-yd dashes.

I guess if you add up all the training a boxer does during the day, it adds-up to more time than when he's actually in the ring, but even then they train several times a day (morning run, then mid-afternoon workout, them maybe sparring in the evening, etc.) They don't do it all in one large "block" of time.

So with that said I am curious, when you train your dogs, do you make them train for 6 hours straight or do you train them 6 hours total, at different times of the day?

Thanks for sharing,

Jack

The reason why I work them up to 6 hours is to prepare them for a long match. When I say 4-6 hours of work, it doesn't mean they're sprinting on the mill for 4-6 hours.
My working dogs are pre-kept already so I'll start with a 3 mile walk which it'll take me about 45 minutes, then put the dogs on the slat for 20 minutes. He'll peak at 15 miles. On days he's not walking, he'll be on the slat for 1 hours, pacing himself and peak at 3 hours. Also on slat mill days I would take them to the park where there's a steep hill and play fetch with a kong ball for 1 hour.