Mange in a brood gyp.

[No Quarter Kennel]

Jack, would you agree that there's an immune system problem regardless of frequency of breeding?

I've had some terrible mange in the past and have chosen to not use those dogs as it's just too big a hassle for myself and absolute misery for the dog who has it.

[Officially Retired]

Jack, would you agree that there's an immune system problem regardless of frequency of breeding?

Not necessarily.

If the immune system is fine in an unbred state ... and if it's fine even in a bred "once or twice" state ... then where is the problem?

If a problem only ensues after a bitch gets bred multiple times in succession ... never being allowed to fully recover from the last time ... and after a period of several years finally starts getting rundown and moth-eaten ... then the problem isn't really with the bitch, the problem is in her being over-bred. Essentially she is being rundown by her owner.

I've had some terrible mange in the past and have chosen to not use those dogs as it's just too big a hassle for myself and absolute misery for the dog who has it.

Some dogs simply get terrible mange, and I agree it is undesirable. However, such dogs usually get it early on, and they struggle with it forever.

But IMO this is a whole other topic than a bitch who is flawless and perfect for 6 straight years of her life, but only AFTER being bred over-and-over-and-over again starts to fall apart.

Jack

[No Quarter Kennel]

I see and agree.

The dogs I referenced were dogs who DID have trouble early in their life. I've had two that I had to put down. Both were Tonka Red Baron dogs. I've only fed Alligator, Snooty-Eli and TRB dogs. I've only seen the mange in the TRB stuff. Just my own experence though.