((( THE TRUTH ABOUT MASON'S CH HAMMER )))

[Hushman]

Good stuff Jack.i really enjoyed that read.thnx

[Officially Retired]

Good read Jack. I strongly believe all of us have dogs with peds that aren't completely correct. This is what I meant in a post earlier about papers. The honesty of the breeder is all that matters. Papers are probably hung more than most think.

I agree with you: the honesty of the breeder is the only thing that matters.

And, while I do believe that there are "skeletons" in virtually every pedigree, at some point, it becomes increasingly-important to understand the truth based on how much focus is being put on the falsely-papered animal.

In other words, if the great-great-great grandsire of your pup was falsely-papered, it really won't matter much at that point. However, if the entire foundation to your yard is based on a falsely-papered animal, it might well affect your ability to make wise breeding choices by knowing the truth of what is behind your stock, genetically.

For me it didn't matter too much, because Poncho was such a good producer, I just focused on him and everything turned out okay. Still, I might have made even better choices in many of my earlier breedings, had I dumped most of that so-so Bolio blood I had and focused on better overall animals, more closely-related to Ch Hammer. Not saying I didn't get some great dogs out of Poncho with the choices I made, because I did, but that is only because Poncho was 'carrying' most of the bitches he got bred to. I didn't understand the truth of his breeding when I was first starting out. All I knew is that Poncho and Missy were head-n-shoulders better than the other "Bolio" blood I had worked with up to that point.

Fortunately, because Poncho was so prepotent, and because I focused on him, his traits quickly dominated my yard and my gene pool.

Good stuff Jack.i really enjoyed that read.thnx

Glad to hear it

Jack

[skipper]

I agree with you: the honesty of the breeder is the only thing that matters.

And, while I do believe that there are "skeletons" in virtually every pedigree, at some point, it becomes increasingly-important to understand the truth based on how much focus is being put on the falsely-papered animal.

In other words, if the great-great-great grandsire of your pup was falsely-papered, it really won't matter much at that point. However, if the entire foundation to your yard is based on a falsely-papered animal, it might well affect your ability to make wise breeding choices by knowing the truth of what is behind your stock, genetically.

For me it didn't matter too much, because Poncho was such a good producer, I just focused on him and everything turned out okay. Still, I might have made even better choices in many of my earlier breedings, had I dumped most of that so-so Bolio blood I had and focused on better overall animals, more closely-related to Ch Hammer. Not saying I didn't get some great dogs out of Poncho with the choices I made, because I did, but that is only because Poncho was 'carrying' most of the bitches he got bred to. I didn't understand the truth of his breeding when I was first starting out. All I knew is that Poncho and Missy were head-n-shoulders better than the other "Bolio" blood I had worked with up to that point.

Fortunately, because Poncho was so prepotent, and because I focused on him, his traits quickly dominated my yard and my gene pool.





Glad to hear it

Jack

I agree. Some dog 4-5 generation doesn't matter at all. I don't bother those dogs that far back unless they are the ones the dogs I feed are bred around. And that's where you hit then nail. Your dogs are linebred on CH hammer. With a different sire from another bloodline this makes a huge difference. However I like the "new" ped better, My experience with Bolio blood is that it's a good and all around decent blood. When crossed to the Eli/carver crosses it becomes great. Then building your line on that great cross can't go wrong. As you sad, it's 2 bad you didn't get to know this earlier. But you have done great anyways. Remember this is an observation from my experience with Bolio blood. Not a generalization. Some of the most devastating dogs I've seen came from Bolio-Eli/Carver crosses.

[Officially Retired]

I agree. Some dog 4-5 generation doesn't matter at all. I don't bother those dogs that far back unless they are the ones the dogs I feed are bred around. And that's where you hit then nail. Your dogs are linebred on CH hammer. With a different sire from another bloodline this makes a huge difference. However I like the "new" ped better, My experience with Bolio blood is that it's a good and all around decent blood. When crossed to the Eli/carver crosses it becomes great. Then building your line on that great cross can't go wrong. As you sad, it's 2 bad you didn't get to know this earlier. But you have done great anyways. Remember this is an observation from my experience with Bolio blood. Not a generalization. Some of the most devastating dogs I've seen came from Bolio-Eli/Carver crosses.

Very good post!


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