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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank43 View Post
    Why do you like Boyle’s. I know he has a good line of dogs. I would consider incorporating a little of that into my mix. I’m not sure it’s needed. I like the style of what I have. They are hard to break off. They aren’t soft mouthed dogs. I thought about working some Luther into the dam of family one. I’m not sure she needs it. Next breedings should be Alpo or Machobear with her. There’s a 50/50 dog evo has that my gut says will be a good breeding with her. She lacks some work ethic but she may not need it. John jr prob add drive and wind there’s dolly and bull. Hopefully her style is passed on to a good percentage of pups. My friends always talking about mouth. If you’re smart enough to get you your spot and have enough to seal the deal how much do you need. That’s why I like Alpo. He’s like a 50/50. She needs drive to me. Breeding her to a dog with drive made a good litter. There was a lot of variation. I want them stamped out like little carbon copies. For some reason female for subfamily two is smaller looks like a Butkus dog. More on the rbj hyper And athletic side. I think the double bred tango dog with Boyle’s and a Butkus dog will get that family started. Speed and brains athleticism smaller size. I just hope the double bred son can throw one.
    I like him as a breeder, he established his family using a blend of Eli, Hank and Bolio to various degrees and was able to achieve a uniformity that many seasoned dogmen had great success with. He cared less about having his name in every slot of a pedigree and more about having the right dog.

    With regards to breeding to Alpo or Machobear if it were my money I would choose Machobear as he was a proven producer, keep in mind anything to Machobear will be by A.I. as he is now deceased and with that will come a bigger price tag.

    I know nothing about the Little John Jr dog and for myself a pretty pedigree alone doesn't mean anything to me. If you like the Little John blood I would look no further then CML's Loco.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROCK-MACHINE View Post
    I like him as a breeder, he established his family using a blend of Eli, Hank and Bolio to various degrees and was able to achieve a uniformity that many seasoned dogmen had great success with. He cared less about having his name in every slot of a pedigree and more about having the right dog.

    With regards to breeding to Alpo or Machobear if it were my money I would choose Machobear as he was a proven producer, keep in mind anything to Machobear will be by A.I. as he is now deceased and with that will come a bigger price tag.

    I know nothing about the Little John Jr dog and for myself a pretty pedigree alone doesn't mean anything to me. If you like the Little John blood I would look no further then CML's Loco.
    I respect his work. He’s almost like a Patrick. Made a little family bred so that it stands crossed by other people into other strains. You make a good point. I’m not looking for a pretty ped. More like ingredients in a mix. You have to make decisions with incomplete info with the way things are. I know my female needs a shot of redboy blood. She isn’t the hardest worker but high on brains.

    If you do things right there isn’t much money in it. If you can make enough for dog food and upkeep and pay for stud fees with puppy sales you’re doing good. You can’t sell to everybody. If the people getting them don’t have a fighting spirit and a brain they will think these dogs are like any other. I’m not the one with a clay Davis mentality ,”I’ll take anybody money if he’s giving it away.” I want to know my dogs and build more brains into them. I like working dogs. Not really trying to peddle or end up a target by alphabet boys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank43 View Post
    I respect his work. He’s almost like a Patrick. Made a little family bred so that it stands crossed by other people into other strains. You make a good point. I’m not looking for a pretty ped. More like ingredients in a mix. You have to make decisions with incomplete info with the way things are. I know my female needs a shot of redboy blood. She isn’t the hardest worker but high on brains.

    If you do things right there isn’t much money in it. If you can make enough for dog food and upkeep and pay for stud fees with puppy sales you’re doing good. You can’t sell to everybody. If the people getting them don’t have a fighting spirit and a brain they will think these dogs are like any other. I’m not the one with a clay Davis mentality ,”I’ll take anybody money if he’s giving it away.” I want to know my dogs and build more brains into them. I like working dogs. Not really trying to peddle or end up a target by alphabet boys.
    You may want to look into the Dykes/Nelson/Deloach/Boyles blend rather then straight Redboy, the ones I've seen bring a lot to the table and then some. You want to find it heavy Otis with no more then 1/4 Haymaker though.

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