((( BREEDING UPDATES / FIXES / DELETIONS )))

[Rolltidepride]

Do you think it would be possible to keep this dispute CIVIL and FACTUAL?

The point I am most concerned with, as a database owner, is if the breeding is LEGIT or not

Who owes whom "what" is a secondary
consideration to the reality of how the dogs are bred.

With that said, these are the facts I have been able to decipher:

1) The breeding is legitimate;
2) Kimo lied about the exploits of his stud;
2) Hueblot/Rolltide lied, and never paid Kimo the stud fee, because of his lie about phony record of his stud.

IMO, the lies about the exploits of the stud do not justify the action of withholding payment for the stud.
If the buyer(s) of the stud service failed to do their due diligence, that is their own fault.
However, the fact Kimo didn't get paid for his stud service doesn't justify Kimo's lie TO ME saying the breeding is "fake."

BOTTOM LINE: 1) Kimo owes ME an apology for his lie to me, 2) Kimo owes Hueblot/Rolltide an apology for his lie to them about what his stud has done, and 3) these two guys owe Kimo his pup/payment for the stud service.

That's how I see it,

Jack

You are exactly right
Will not happen again but I owe him nothing I bought a pup from hueblot not McGuire the breeding I made with him I paid cash and am the only person to date that has paid him
I've offered to pay him for hueblot justvto move forward he refuse the money and the pup

[Rolltidepride]

He refused DNA over and over um done

[Officially Retired]

You are exactly right
Will not happen again but I owe him nothing I bought a pup from hueblot not McGuire the breeding I made with him I paid cash and am the only person to date that has paid him
I've offered to pay him for hueblot justvto move forward he refuse the money and the pup

I agree, if you only bought a pup, then you owe nothing.

If Hueblot bred to the man's stud, and got pups, he owes Kimo for the breeding. End of story.

If Kimo lied about his stud's exploits, Hueblot should have done his due diligence before breeding to the stud, but that would still make Kimo a liar.

I understand Hueblot just "trusting" the guy ... same as I just "trusted" that Ch Hammer was really off of BBB ... only to find out 12 years later, he was not.

Worked out all right though

Jack