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    Quote Originally Posted by CA Jack View Post
    You simply lack vision then, or comprehension.

    If you have ever said, "Dog A is gamer than Dog B," then by default you DO believe in degrees of gameness.

    You may not "see" (or comprehend) that this is what you believe, but the fact remains that is essentially what you're saying.





    If a dog simply **IS** game, if this fact is an unchangeable truth about the dog, then there is nothing that will change this fact.

    However, if gameness comes in degrees, and can vary, ONLY THEN can "mismanagement" (age/health/condition, etc.) affect the dog's will to win.

    For example, it is an unchangeable truth that an animal is either A DOG (or it's not).

    No amount of "management/mismanagement" is going to affect the FACT that a particular animal is either Canis familiaris or it's not.

    The trait of gameness is nothing like this.

    As I clearly stated (but which you still lack the comprehension to grasp), gameness DOES come in degrees, and it CAN vary across individuals, as well as within a given individual, which is WHY management/owner competence matter.

    Same thing as strength/mouth, etc. come in degrees.

    Yes, certain dogs are going to simply have MORE mouth/strength than other dogs, but (depending on the circumstances) these traits can likewise be enhanced, or diminished, based on owner competence.

    Similarly, some dogs are simply going to be GAMER than other dogs, and this desire to win can also be enhanced (or detracted) by health/condition also, within whatever genetic aptitudes the individual has.

    If you "don't see" gameness in degrees, this is a statement about either your vision or comprehension, not with the pretty obvious fact that this trait (like every other sliding-scale trait) varies.

    Jack
    I get what your saying. I'm just not willing and I do say not willing to put opinion over my objective. That in itself is just a perspective thing. I'd be retarded or half slow not understanding lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EGK View Post
    I get what your saying.
    I don't think you do.



    Quote Originally Posted by EGK View Post
    I'm just not willing and I do say not willing to put opinion over my objective. That in itself is just a perspective thing.
    You speak too simplistically to demonstrate understanding.

    The truth is, the display of gameness/curness can be both objective and subjective.

    The fact a dog stood is a fact.

    WHY he stood can be a matter of opinion.

    The fact a dog belly-crawled to a beat-down is NOT an opinion, it's a fact: there he was, he crawled. FACT.

    "If" he would have quit :20 later is an opinion.

    A person's ability/intelligence to sift fact from opinion is a key aptitude.

    The ability to form correct opinions, based on the facts, is another key aptitude.



    Quote Originally Posted by EGK View Post
    I'd be retarded or half slow not understanding lol.

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