I like this answer. Especially "Remember you aren't out to impress but to get that win".

I think this gets lost a lot. I know nothing of Titere and this by no means is a sign of disrespect but it amazes me people will question a dog's performance. And just using him as an example. If he won all the matches if less than :30 each, it will be some that will question the competition. If it took him 2 plus hours four or five times some will question his ability or desire to finish. And the part that always gets me is that if five-ten-fifteen years from now if Titere turns out not to be a producer (again no disrespect) the lack of production somehow will diminish his performance career.

For me what makes Titere special, and not knowing anything about him, is that he went in and came out a bunch of times, by any means necessary. The object is to get in and get out as quick as you can. The dog does not get to pick and choose his competition yet he is the one who is held accountable. And on top of that he has to have style points. And on top of that he has to go on to produce to sort of validate his performances.

Ch. Charlie was farmed from his breeder to DTA. Odds are he could have won a few more. He basically had no faults. After his first he didn't take a lot of damage. He positioned himself in a defensive manner yet delivered the wood. He had that style, and then when it needed to change it did, and after a rough first one he mauled three really good dogs. Dogs that had won and if they had not crossed his path, maybe win some more. The kicker is he has had only a few breedings and thus he is not a well known 4XW.

It is funny that as rough as the dogs are, and the owners as well, it can be a fickle bunch at the same time. EWO





Quote Originally Posted by Nitaino View Post
Well going to throw my two cents in the mix. I raised and schooled Gr Ch Titere. He was the only one out of the litter that wasn't single minded. He would use your style against you till he got his way and then it was just a matter of time. Remember you aren't out to impress but to get that win. And the stiffer the competition the harder it is to get your way. I do believe you can breed your animals to have a specific style. I have three generations of dogs on the ground off Panthro Jr. who was the best producer of that litter and all have smarts but are back end monsters. To really key on that specific trait you must have animals that pass the trait along on constantly and be fairly tightly bred.