Sure Osage, which is why I stated up front I don't ruin young dogs.

That being said though, I personally don't think a serious game test is stupid. Have I done it with every dog? No, but I've done it with plenty. A serious game test is tantamount to a serious match. That's how I look at it.

I never make dogs push weight in any kind of gameness check, but I do believe, and always have, that gameness should be the backbone of a program.