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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by No Quarter Kennel View Post
    These are the type of things that make me, at times, want completely out of these dogs altogether.
    The overwhelming majority of people that own these dogs are cowardice subhuman garbage.
    Couldn't agree more.

    I have always been a dog lover. I have always been a fight fan.

    I could stay in these dogs forever, and never get tired of watching new pups grow into world class athletes, and seeing prime specimens of these dogs "do their thing" ... and shine doing it ... or show dogged determination to keep trying when they're outgunned. I could never get tired of seeing a yardful of athletes, of my own design and breeding, all happy to see me come out with a cup of coffee in the morning.

    What I *can't* stand, however, is (1) the unbelievably-cruel imbeciles in this sport who do things that should never be done, and (2) being lumped by the general public as "one of them," as if I am cut from the same cloth, which I most assuredly am not.

    Guilt by association.

    Even if I do my best to be as fair and good to my animals as I can possibly be, just doing these dogs puts you in the same category as child molester to the general public.

    Jack

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    Quote Originally Posted by CA Jack View Post
    Couldn't agree more.

    I have always been a dog lover. I have always been a fight fan.

    I could stay in these dogs forever, and never get tired of watching new pups grow into world class athletes, and seeing prime specimens of these dogs "do their thing" ... and shine doing it ... or show dogged determination to keep trying when they're outgunned. I could never get tired of seeing a yardful of athletes, of my own design and breeding, all happy to see me come out with a cup of coffee in the morning.

    What I *can't* stand, however, is (1) the unbelievably-cruel imbeciles in this sport who do things that should never be done, and (2) being lumped by the general public as "one of them," as if I am cut from the same cloth, which I most assuredly am not.

    Guilt by association.

    Even if I do my best to be as fair and good to my animals as I can possibly be, just doing these dogs puts you in the same category as child molester to the general public.

    Jack
    Exceptions to society's opinion is what its all about.None of us are out to prove society wrong but to give some of these animals stand up representatives.If we caved to what society thinks we would be a bunch of liberal bleeding heart yuppies.Our society's influence should be basically ignored in every way possible by anyone who values individuality.Its influence is a joke.Only a fool would allow society's influence to keep them from any certain passion or drive for the sake of not allowing themselves to be labeled or judged wrongly by the whole.That to me is the reason that society is as weak as we find it today.Most people are ignorant.They do not think for themselves and definitely dont question or think why or if what they've been taught is correct.They ask is this what everyone thinks? Well it must be so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bingo View Post
    Exceptions to society's opinion is what its all about.None of us are out to prove society wrong but to give some of these animals stand up representatives.If we caved to what society thinks we would be a bunch of liberal bleeding heart yuppies.Our society's influence should be basically ignored in every way possible by anyone who values individuality.Its influence is a joke.Only a fool would allow society's influence to keep them from any certain passion or drive for the sake of not allowing themselves to be labeled or judged wrongly by the whole.That to me is the reason that society is as weak as we find it today.Most people are ignorant.They do not think for themselves and definitely dont question or think why or if what they've been taught is correct.They ask is this what everyone thinks? Well it must be so.
    Good point. But then there comes a time where we must decide for ourselves where our values lie.

    For many years, all I cared about was bulldogs. To the exclusion of all else (family, society, relationships, etc.)

    I bred my share of winners, I put out books, and I worked tirelessly day-and-night contributing more insight and concepts to this game than 99.99% of any man who ever called himself a "dogman" ... and I am still contributing in my own way, above and beyond what anyone else has ever put together, with this website.

    But I enjoy my ONE dog now.

    I don't need to die on a yard of 60 dogs to "prove my passion" for the APBT.

    I have poured myself deeper into these dogs, living and breathing nothing but bulldogs, every day of my life, from the moment I woke up, to the moment I went to bed, for 13 years straight (out of 20-something total years). I have done my time in a more intense fashion than most (essentially) "part-time" dogmen. Most people in these dogs work 8-10 hours a day, come home and toss-out some dogfood, and call themselves "dogmen."

    Every waking moment of my life was all about these dogs for nearly 1.5 decades.
    I made 100% of my income from dogs and products having to do with dogs.
    Didn't sell drugs, didn't have a job, just was 100% into these animals.
    I have had at least 10-15 bulldogs for more than 2.5 decades.

    I still value these dogs, but I have other things to do with my life now.

    It also becomes a question of risks vs. rewards. Lotta risk, little reward (for me) anymore.

    Now I like to travel. And, since I am working again, I know where my money's coming from and that it doesn't have to involve selling a dog to someone who might do it wrong.

    I also enjoy not having stress because of these dogs. Not have to field a thousand questions about pups for sale.

    Yet I am still interested in their history and in providing the best info possible on their care and breeding for people still into the breed.

    I like to be able to appreciate other people's dogs, and breedings, without secretly thinking to myself, "I have one at home that would whip that," lol

    This allows me to be unbiased and just observe what others are doing more objectively.

    Buy my new passion is wildlife photography. It's just as exciting in many ways, with ZERO downside, ZERO negative, and a lot more inner peace.

    My heart will always be in these dogs, but my head told me it's time to do something else with my life. At least as far as physically owning a large number of dogs.

    But I can still enjoy the breed here, and when I walk my one doggie, lol

    Jack

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    And this is why I consider this one of the better sites out there! Its people that really care about another living thing!

    This was a point i was trying to make on the thread breeding young dogs! I have taken in more then my fair share unwanted pitbulls and other breeds.

    I have also got into a fist fight with a sum bag over beating his dog with a stick. Well as it turned out the dam dog love this ass wipe and bit the shit outta me! Lol
    But that same guy now understands what i was trying to explain to him. It took for another dog that he owned to dam near kill him not once but twice for it to click to him. B.u.t he got the point and does great with the breed now!

    Sad part is so many good dogs get put down because the tuff guy shit! "O he or she didnt start at 18 months old put em down! See that same dog that was kept in a crate till 18months old go live in the house and have his very own couch and do 1:20 off that same couch! Go figure.

    To hurt a small animals or any animals are the very first signs of a sociopath!!
    Also i think its up to us to eductate people and more so the guys that are just getting into the breed on proper management! Or gift them with them with THE PITBULL BIBLE to read!

    A downer to read about things like this!

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