Ultimate Lactating Bitch Feed

[No Quarter Kennel]

There's not a lot I disagree with here Jack. For the most part, I agree with most of what you say. Your are king dingaling when it comes to stating things in an irrefutable manner.
However, there are other reasons and one is that a man with 100+ dogs, winning dogs, with no internal parasites, external parasites and dogs housed properly and dogs that have been "done right by" in many many ways, may just be feeding PREMIUM Ole Roy (I know - I know - not much difference in this and regular Ole Roy and I agree - BUT it is better than regular) for the cost effectiveness (meaning monetary only) angle possible.

If I wanted to argue against your "ignorance" stance, I would argue, that a man, breeding, handling and selling winning dogs, is not at all ignorant to be saving in feed increasing his profit margin. Actually sounds smart to me.
If I were to argue against "laziness", I would say a man whose yard is immaculate, FULL OF WINNING DOGS that have won ALL OVER THE PLANET, and every single animal on the yard looks like a thoroughbred, would contradict him being lazy in any way at all, except in the area of feed. A yard with 40+ animals, all in perfect condition, with numerous winners and champions, zero fleas or worms contradicts a lazy dogman.

Simply b/c a man is perceived to be lazy in your eyes b/c of what he feeds does not constitute the man lazy. One aspect of many aspects (the dogs are only one aspect of most folk's lives) of one man's life does not constitute a lazy man. If that logic holds true then every man on the planet is one lazy SOB!

Lots of factors to consider.

Where you a lazy dogman when you were feeding Canidae?

[Officially Retired]

There's not a lot I disagree with here Jack. For the most part, I agree with most of what you say. Your are king dingaling when it comes to stating things in an irrefutable manner.
However, there are other reasons and one is that a man with 100+ dogs, winning dogs, with no internal parasites, external parasites and dogs housed properly and dogs that have been "done right by" in many many ways, may just be feeding PREMIUM Ole Roy (I know - I know - not much difference in this and regular Ole Roy and I agree - BUT it is better than regular) for the cost effectiveness (meaning monetary only) angle possible.

The man simply is selfish, and has too many dogs.

If I wanted to argue against your "ignorance" stance, I would argue, that a man, breeding, handling and selling winning dogs, is not at all ignorant to be saving in feed increasing his profit margin. Actually sounds smart to me.

In a selfish sense, yes.

Smart for himself, smart for his wallet, but NOT doing his best for the dogs.

You're simply defending your hero, nothing more.

There are two subjects you're confusing: (1) what's convenient/cost-effective and (2) what is BEST for the dogs.

The subject of this thread is ULTIMATE (best)

If you want to start a new thread about feeding cheap shit as being more cost-effective, that's fine.

But on the subject of BEST practices, Ol' Roy and this man's feeding methods don't belong here.

If I were to argue against "laziness", I would say a man whose yard is immaculate, FULL OF WINNING DOGS that have won ALL OVER THE PLANET, and every single animal on the yard looks like a thoroughbred, would contradict him being lazy in any way at all, except in the area of feed.

You just said it: he's lazy when it comes to feeding optimally.

He is not even trying to feed "okay"; he is feeding PURE SHIT.

Why does he need 100 dogs that he feeds pure shit?

You don't need 100 dogs to have good dogs. You don't need 100 dogs period.

I have not been in as long, but I have bred winners all over the world with a lot fewer dogs than that.

Simply b/c a man is perceived to be lazy in your eyes b/c of what he feeds does not constitute the man lazy. One aspect of many aspects (the dogs are only one aspect of most folk's lives) of one man's life does not constitute a lazy man. If that logic holds true then every man on the planet is one lazy SOB! Lots of factors to consider.

You're rationalizing, nothing more.

Just because a man is an icon in the game, does NOT mean he's a flawless human being or actually does his very best on every level.

It means he's been around long enough to know what a good dog looks like, bred a lot of winners, etc., but that does NOT mean it's "a good thing" to be a dog on this man's yard.

Sure, there are worse yards to be on.

There are also FAR better yards to be on

The last thing I would EVER want to do would be sentenced to be 1 of 100 dogs on a chain in Texas, fed Ol' Roy dogfood for the rest of my God-forsaken, human-deprived life.

By contrast, there are people whose yards (if I was a dog) I would be "delighted" to be on.

WHY? Because I would be WORKED WITH and FED TOP NUTRITION ... not be one of dozens strewn all over the place on a dog-farm.

Where you a lazy dogman when you were feeding Canidae?

No. That is your moronic parallel, showing that you understand nothing.

I never, at ANY time fed pure shit feed like Ol Roy.

I did, however, feed Diamond when I was GREEN and IGNORANT.

Then, as I learned, and after watching enough dogs fall apart, I CARED ENOUGH to start investigating how much FEED affects my dogs ... and I tried other feeds (Abady, etc.), and I made the switch to Canidae.

You see, back then, 15 years ago, Canidae was top nutrition, and that was part of my own stages of evolution TRYING TO FEED BETTER ... going from Diamond to Canidae (which used to be top nutrition, now it too is junk).

No one will EVER accuse me of deliberately doing the same stupid, sub-standard shit ... for 40-50 years in a row ... that is not "evolution" that is STAGNATION

When I realized how important nutrition was, I studied as much as I could.
When Canidae switched ingredients, I again switched to Nature's Variety ... TRYING TO FEED THE BEST FEED I COULD ... until I realized RAW was the way to go. Period.

And I have been feeding RAW ever since.

More than that, in the exact OPPOSITE of laziness, I WROTE BOOKS, PRODUCED MAGAZINES, AND PRODUCED DVDS trying to **HELP OTHER DOGS AND THEIR OWNERS ALL OVER THE WORLD**

So please don't compare me in ANY WAY to some lazy old man, who's fed the same sub-standard shit for 50 years straight, NEVER tried to improve, and can only write a book about "himself."

There are not many people who are as UN-lazy as I am

Thanks,

Jack