Redboy / jocko has made more dead game dogs !

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There you go .so one would not have to go west being the west has made east.

Right. Exactly. The west made the east.

but where did the Patrick get his dogs .

From the western dogmen Carver and Mayfield

This can go on and on ,but you nc look back in their Peds and it goes back east .

Yes it can, but the best, most historical, most influential dogmen are not from North Carolina ... they're western dogmen.

The great western dogmen are the ones who set the eastern dogmen up

In fact, Tom Garner got his two most influential dogs (Chinaman and Frisco) from the western dogman Vince Romero.
All his other dogs (even the ones with Crenshaw in them) came from the west, as Crenshaw likewise got his best dogs from the western dogman Maurice Carver also.

Jack