Ditto Browning, I have not had any dogs for close to 40 years now. I knew all the above mentioned dog men. Another was Swetman that ran with Hargrove etc. I was there that day that Turlington lost that dog show. I too along with many others was blown away when the dog just up and quit on top. Am very sorry to hear he took his life over that. I remember how sick he looked was almost green looking like a sea sick person. I would have hated to go home and face my family over that sort of incident.

The last bloodlines I was working on was mostly a Bullyson/Art's Missy dogs with some Mayfield/Eli out and crossed to my J. Young's Chuck dog. The Chuck dog was a Creel bred dog that S. McNeil bought direct from M. Carver. I had future plans to cross the best of those dogs to some good Bolio bred dogs. The Hollingworth's dogs would have been a good choice.

I had let V.J. run with the older stock dogs we had years back. I later let him breed his Tunney dog to my Face bitch and my Monkey bitch. Let him have both litters. He had preferred to use his Son dog that was a full sibling to Tunney but Son got killed in a kennel accident.

To get a idea of what the last dogs I was breeding were all about. Pull up V. Jackson's Harley and J. Young's Southern Man. I had used another little stud dog named Zetterquest brother's Crazy Critter bred to Face as well. I had Monkey bred to Critter and she was poisoned right on the day of delivery. While I was called out of town to work on a Sunday. A year before that Someone came on my dog yard and broke my Chuck dog's back. Someone was not wanting me to get this bloodline up and running.

The best of those dogs, the V. Jackson's Harley dog came out of got killed in a Texas flash flood. Two of the best ones Tango and Cash got shot by V.J. 's pissed off next door neighbor. Dennis Jones had one of those sibling dogs to Harley. He may have bred this dog some, but was later killed in a H.S. dog raid along with the rest of his dogs.

Your friend that told you I sold POS dogs to newbies is in great Error. I was not in the dog game to sell dogs. Was just a hobby and passion of mine. To the best of my memory I never sold but a handful of dogs as pups. K. Sineath bought a few pups from me many years back. Another was Young's Red Lady sold back to Scotty McNeil. Another I sold was a nice looking pup off my J. Young's Bruno dog to a newbie named Williams for $300.00.

Later when Williams too early in this young dog's age wanted to school it. I advised him not to. He insisted and I let it roll with ole Bruno since both dogs were large dogs. The young dog showed a fault and I pointed it out. Offered to replace with another breeding. But some can not see or hear what is said even when you try to help them. This young dog had a lot of natural potential but showed a fault which I saw in it's eyes and a bad head move. Seasoned dog men know what I mean about that.

Williams later matched into Braham's Snake dog. Gave Snake a rough time and had Snake looking bad. I told V.J. not to bet on Williams' dog as it was probably a hell on wheels Cur for around 30 to 40 minutes. He did not believe me cause the dog was looking so good. He bet a good bet and lost it around the 35 to 40 minute mark. LOL

Williams kept that dog and used it for a roll dog. K. Marlowe use to check out some of her Red Boy dogs on that Williams dog. Cheers