How much has the dog game change ?

[Foxman]

When I was around Earl Tudor, Jim Williams, Danny Burton, Bill De Cordova, Bob Neblett or Bert Clouse and many more Bulldog Men. I never heard them cuss or use God's name in Vain. Some of them were on the wild side but still they had their values. They may have cussed some where else. Yet I never heard them cuss around me. I might slip up occcasionally and say a four letter cuss word but I've never used God's name in Vain ever since birth. Now that is more than I can say about some of the people on pedigree's online and their filthy mouths. I've never heard anyone in the old days make threats about Children's rectums or any threat's about children. I'm not sure that is a example of most of todays dogmen or not. I do not run with any of todays dogmen. I'm sorry if I've hurt someone's feelings. You don't have to talk bad to be tough. Some of the toughest dogmen I've known are soft spoken men.

[SteelyDan]

When I was around Earl Tudor, Jim Williams, Danny Burton, Bill De Cordova, Bob Neblett or Bert Clouse and many more Bulldog Men. I never heard them cuss or use God's name in Vain. Some of them were on the wild side but still they had their values. They may have cussed some where else. Yet I never heard them cuss around me. I might slip up occcasionally and say a four letter cuss word but I've never used God's name in Vain ever since birth. Now that is more than I can say about some of the people on pedigree's online and their filthy mouths. I've never heard anyone in the old days make threats about Children's rectums or any threat's about children. I'm not sure that is a example of most of todays dogmen or not. I do not run with any of todays dogmen. I'm sorry if I've hurt someone's feelings. You don't have to talk bad to be tough. Some of the toughest dogmen I've known are soft spoken men.

i have a CD of Tudor, Sparks, Corvino, Clark, Trahan having a conversation. Great CD. Tudor is cussing up a storm on it. Cock sucker this and cock sucker that.

[Foxman]

They may have all cussed. But I did not hear them ever say anything around me. I don't cuss so Maybe that is why they didn't or I just wasn't around them when they were mad. I'm not sure. But I am sure none of them threatened people's children. My wife and I were at Tudors house several times. Sometimes as long as three hours or so. I ask her if she remember him cussing. She said no not him or Flo cussed one time. I do know he did some pretty crazy stuff in his day and he wasn't my kind of people. So I guess I was wrong in using this for a comparison. Who knows under the right conditions they might all cuss. Anyway I was wrong You were right. Randy Fox

[CrazyRed]

They may have all cussed. But I did not hear them ever say anything around me. I don't cuss so Maybe that is why they didn't or I just wasn't around them when they were mad. I'm not sure. But I am sure none of them threatened people's children. Randy Fox

well some of those older guys did worse than threaten some children, they actually molested some. Some served some time over the years for it.

[Black Hand]

They may have all cussed. But I did not hear them ever say anything around me. I don't cuss so Maybe that is why they didn't or I just wasn't around them when they were mad. I'm not sure. But I am sure none of them threatened people's children. My wife and I were at Tudors house several times. Sometimes as long as three hours or so. I ask her if she remember him cussing. She said no not him or Flo cussed one time. I do know he did some pretty crazy stuff in his day and he wasn't my kind of people. So I guess I was wrong in using this for a comparison. Who knows under the right conditions they might all cuss. Anyway I was wrong You were right. Randy Fox

Randy, this has less to do with dogmen and more to do with the times. More people today in general are desensitized to vulgarity, sex, violence, and everything in between. Has less to do with dogs and more to do with the times we live in. If it was more class, gentlemen, and sportsmanship in the "golden days" then it's probably just a reflection of how people were back then in general. You could say the same about anything really. If someone told you that stuff on the internet it's really not abnormal. This is the times we live in, when a 16 year old can go on twitter and tell a professional
Athlete that he hopes his kids die because he didn't earn him any fantasy league points lol. Don't take it personal. What's happened to you happens to a lot of people. Has zero to so with dogs or dogmen.

[EWO]

Well said. That is why I posted earlier that the dogs or the game has not really changed. The dog game is just like any other segment of society it is mostly a reflection or a cross section of society.

To use your analogy. That same kid may have thought that in 1962 but he did not have the means to post it and make it public for the world to see. Nor had the world become so de-sensitized to vulgarity and deviant behavior that that rant is often over looked.

I am not sure of the percentages of good people to bad people are in any different today that twenty-thirty-forty years ago but today in the information age we hear every little thing from around the world everyday. The sway in 'perceptive percentages' is that the bad people in the news outnumber the good people 10 to 1. (and that is a conservative estimate). EWO

Randy, this has less to do with dogmen and more to do with the times. More people today in general are desensitized to vulgarity, sex, violence, and everything in between. Has less to do with dogs and more to do with the times we live in. If it was more class, gentlemen, and sportsmanship in the "golden days" then it's probably just a reflection of how people were back then in general. You could say the same about anything really. If someone told you that stuff on the internet it's really not abnormal. This is the times we live in, when a 16 year old can go on twitter and tell a professional
Athlete that he hopes his kids die because he didn't earn him any fantasy league points lol. Don't take it personal. What's happened to you happens to a lot of people. Has zero to so with dogs or dogmen.