Quote Originally Posted by CYJ View Post
Ditto Browning, that was the Golden Era for sure. Over Time most of those multi dog shows slowly brought the attention of stricter law enforcement personnel and politicians fuelled on by the Humane Dike Society.

Can not remember all those fellows names. Seems it was Strickland, McDougal, Nelson, Ramsey, Divine, Waldrop. Never got to meet J Carver. Did see the Waldo dog and A. Howle bought that old Cotton's Bullet dog named Sambo. That Mr. Shivar formerly owned from I believe McDougal.

That veterinarian was the one who added that Upjohn predisone product to the azium and how to best use it. I am pretty sure He also developed that Steroid keep that Ozzie liked so much.

What V. Jackson learned from Mayfield and the Florida group. Made him hard to beat with the medium to small weight dogs. Which is what we had at that time. V. Jackson was nick named the Bitch dog man as he did so well with the female dogs. Did show some males, just had a knack for getting the most out of a bitch dog.

When those Florida boys rolled into N.C. and S.C. with those Carver bred dogs. A better feed, work and drug keep. The game made a big change again. The dried out and pulled to minimum weight dogs could not handle the wetter stronger hard mouth Carver dogs. Those early 70's and 80's Carver bred dogs were some of the best blood back then.

Even Mr. E. Skinner who was a big fan of the Cotton's Bullet/Hemphill/Lightner dogs agreed that Maurice Carver was going to have a great impact on the future bloodlines of the A.P.B.T. Was his opinion which today has proven to be almost 100% correct.

Irish Jerry at that time was just getting started. Had not at that time made that trip out to M. Carver to buy some dogs. Jerry was clowning around at one of the get to gathers with Nelson. Wanted to finger wrestle with Nelson. Nelson calmly broke his finger right then and there. Nelson was no one to mess around with. LOL Cheers
Yes it was a different group that we will nevr see again, Some of the ones I'm sure you know and maybe seen, that we also run with was J. Lee (Chivo Dogs), J. Hand ( Midnight Cowboy Dogs) and H.H. which just bred best to best LOL!!!. My Mentor (Euel Brown) was good friends with Jerry "DOC" Waldrop and he got us a lot of dogs from Baker, and a dog named "Thorntons "SMARTY" which was "Buster' bred back to His Dam "Art's Missy". I remember seeing Jarrett's "HEAD" take a part a Cowboy dog that D. Cousins owned, also Turlington's "DipStick" which he won that one, but later you know the story about Turlington When he put up a mortgage on his house and LOST and ended up killing himself over that. To go into another Dogman I knew quite a Bit about was the "Divines" before they moved to Ocala they lived in Plant City, Fl. about 20 mins. away from us, he was remembered for the great one with "ACE vs. Hudson's Tex" after that long battle out in Texas, then he had a son of Ace named "Little Ace" which had won 1 or 2 and so we being a thorn in his side we Match into "Little Ace" with a Doubled- Davis "Sister" dog bred to "Chivo" named Browns/Pettus "IRONSIDES" he was an assasin Killer dog, and 1/2 way thru the keep they Paid a Forfeit. We had already whipped a couple of his dogs with a Dog named Pettus's "Crimson Tide" the best they come up with out of the "Cowboy" blood. He was bred to 1 of our very good broods named Browns "Barabra" bred to a male out of Divines "Bruce" that B. Paul had named "Rascal". Anyway some of the guys that run with that group were Larry Coleman that loved the Old Red Nose stuff down from "Cassius" & Max "WISE" dogs. You also may have known a good friend of mine that his name was Larry Kelley which actually owned Divines "JODY" out of (Cowboy x Patty) He was a Arm Wrestler and I won more on him at the Matches then the dogs, Never seen him Lose.

I have paid Att. to some of your post, but I never see you with what we Like, was wondering if any one keep the Jarrett's "Head" alive the Boomerang stuff worked well with our (L. Buster) dogs with a 1/4 of it for Mouth. We had the Gameness ( Enough to Win) but Boomer would help thru the "Zeb" & Bruce" stuff. Me & Larry Kelley went and saw "ZEB's" 2nd one and he was probably in the top 10 of the old ones I've seen. And if these new guys think that they could Win against that caliber dogs I've mentioned then they are smoking some good S**t. Well I could go on & on about Ms. Loposay, Joe Orday, J. Lee, Lamar Mills ( Mills Ch. SHORTEYE) which me & Aubrey pettus was over at his house a couple of weeks ago, he was always trying to whip our dogs with that "Cowboy" stuff, but we went 4 for 4 against those dogs. LOL!!!

You know what we like if you look up Pettus "Bad News II" may be under Edwards, that is me and I bred a Chivo/Patty Female to Davis "SCRATCH" and got a dog named Edwards "PRECIOUS" that gave us a Female ( Named Glass's JODY"that put away H.H. Ch. "Brandy" Dam ( She was a very Game dog) of "Rufus" and she was only 22 months old, so take a look and let me know if you have something I would be interested in. I run with a guy from Ga. that knows you, and he said you have the good stuff or know where it is, but you also sell some Shiteaters to these newbees. LOL!!! So lets not start off that way not with me. LOL!!! So you can add to this summery if "JACK" don't mind, I have not mentioned anyone that is active in any illegal activity these days, and I am not either and have not for 20 yrs., but still have a few of our ole stuff and about 5 of us keep it alive & well.
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