RedDevil RedBoy

[Officially Retired]

You might need to check with a few people from the nc and sc before you put their name up !,!i don't think W .T would want his up .whats that old saying ,(loose lips sinks ships ) even though it is historical .it can get twisted and make hard on some folks drawing unwanted attention.if you know what I mean.

Maybe initials can be used.

I know James Crenshaw was asked (when he wrote his book) to refer to one well-known oldtimer as "The Man from Alabama"

I think these stories are great to read, and they need to be seen to keep the past alive, so would love to keep the stories coming, but I agree we should also be cautious.

Still, we should not likewise be paranoid either. There are many dogmen who have used their real names for decades and nothing bad has happened either. You gotta be guilty of something more than "being in a book," or being "talked about online," to have a reason to be worried. As someone who is familiar with investigation, you either have to be caught in the act, on tape, or set up in some kind of way (surveillance, etc.).

No one is going to haul anyone's ass to jail for being mentioned on an internet post about something that happend 30+ years ago

[waccamaw]

Ever heard of (conspiracy)look up just how far they can take the conspiracy act..
I don't want to step on any toes or have anybody take it the wrong way ,the more you stir a pot of crap the more it stinks .and one thing we all can agree on is the media will take what is said on here and twist every way they can to make the bulldog man look guilty,I think initials are best used .here is another saying used ,that I like (those who need to know ,know !those who don't ,don't need to know!about certain things of course.
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[Abe]

Great read thanks

[CYJ]

Went back in and removed some remarks and names. Most names listed have passed on. All of this fairy tale and rumors happened close to 40 years ago. LOL Hard to tell a good story event without the fictional names. Will try to be more reserved next time. I to have entered a dog in a dog show where later I knew how it felt to be a one legged man in a ARSE kicking contest.

[Officially Retired]

Went back in and removed some remarks and names. Most names listed have passed on. All of this fairy tale and rumors happened close to 40 years ago. LOL Hard to tell a good story event without the fictional names. Will try to be more reserved next time. I to have entered a dog in a dog show where later I knew how it felt to be a one legged man in a ARSE kicking contest.

Don't worry about it too much, friend, I don't think you said anything wrong ... and please don't let the paranoia of some affect the telling of old tales

[EWO]

It may be overly cautious or slightly paranoid but I still do not feel comfortable with names, and initials make me uneasy. Like wacc said things get blown out of proportion. If I say Joe won Sat. night in :25 minutes and someone goes to check it out. That winner may not even be there but we all know on the 6 o'clock news can report a fit and trim bulldog as being starved. A nick from a briar bush is an injury consistent with dog fighting. A unprescribed bottle of Dex is the steroid that builds up the jaw muscles so the dogs can fight to the death (and every dog man in the world screams cortica not anabolic but the media does not have to explain, only report).
On the flip side, I enjoy reading the history and the names. That is a bit two faced but I enjoy reading it from others but feel uncomfortable doing it myself. I too like, Those who know, know, and those who don't, did not need to in the first place. EWO

[Officially Retired]

It may be overly cautious or slightly paranoid but I still do not feel comfortable with names, and initials make me uneasy. Like wacc said things get blown out of proportion. If I say Joe won Sat. night in :25 minutes and someone goes to check it out. That winner may not even be there but we all know on the 6 o'clock news can report a fit and trim bulldog as being starved. A nick from a briar bush is an injury consistent with dog fighting. A unprescribed bottle of Dex is the steroid that builds up the jaw muscles so the dogs can fight to the death (and every dog man in the world screams cortica not anabolic but the media does not have to explain, only report).
On the flip side, I enjoy reading the history and the names. That is a bit two faced but I enjoy reading it from others but feel uncomfortable doing it myself. I too like, Those who know, know, and those who don't, did not need to in the first place. EWO

You're right, it is two-faced to say you enjoy it, and then cry about names. Again, big difference between talking about what happend last night, and what happened 40 years ago, LMAO.

For that matter, even with a "last night" post, how is someone going to "check it out" ... unless the authorities already have that person, their address, and already have them under surveillance? If that person is already under surveillance, then he's already in a bad spot. But if he's not, no government agency is going to "gather the intelligence" and "mobilize their forces" over a GD internet post

Again, caution is one thing, but paranoia is another, and this is the last I want to hear any crybaby nonsense about names. A cautionary post was made by Wac, CYJ made the necessary adjustments, and that is all that needs to be said. I don't want this thread to get sidetracked into an infinite crybaby-fest digression over "mentioning names."

From this point on, when discussing historical matters of interest, those doing so can use initials, or kennel handles, and that is fine. The fact is, there is not a single case in the history of dog busts that ever was launched from scratch off of an internet post, especially harmless ones like these dating back further than many here have been alive, so everybody please get a grip and just be thankful to CYJ that we have something cool to read on this subject.

This marks the end of the names discussion

Jack

[Doc Ellis]

I'm glad I was able to see one of the originals.
probably too good of a read CYG but I won't tell lol, definitely one of my favorite stories.

[EWO]

Fair enough. EWO