Quote Originally Posted by evolutionkennels View Post
The sheep Clarise... Tell me about the sheep.

All this Bk & forth abt dead and gone dogmen when there are 21st Century breeders & dogmen who are altering peds or explaining to u (after purchase) why your peds aren't the same as what's posted on their sites!!! They'll even pretend tht you're the idiot because u didn't know tht "XYZ" didn't hv papers on him in 1983. I had lost over 30+ dogs due to motorcycle accident in 2006 which left me in a wheelchair for over 14 months then rehab, life, etc took another few years before I ws once again able to own this magnificent, highly controversial breed. Since then I've spent a small fortune putting together another yard with completely different strains than before. I researched journals as to who ws doing what and made my decisions on only to find out tht these new acquaintances think completely different. A great friend of mine told me that a good bulldog is where u find him. Firstly know tht u can trust the breeder---registry refused to correct papers on dog due to handwritten peds from Hollingsworth himself tht he obtained personally. 2nd thing I've noticed is that these pit forum site glorify the moderators or creators of site. If u search the respected Vise-Grip kennels on Game-Dog.com there's comments tht Jack's dogs are only good for house pets!! I found this post researching the bulldogs involved in my purchases. I personally hv spent my hard earned money on 2 dogs that contain Jack's breeding (an older dbl "PONCHO" gyp & dam of male pup) & I completely disagree with tht thought until shown differently. These Internet sites do assist in finding certain strains, but if their peds are real or not is a question not only posed from the old schoolers but current bulldog inventory as well. I'm still waiting on papers for 2dogs from a well known breeder who previously had my papers in hand on prior dealings.... will these 2peds be fake?! Best advice any man can hv is keep your own records true & put the dogs 1st. Times hv definitely changed & people are less trustworthy everyday due to economic factors, yard space, & life in general. So beating up on Mayfield, Tudor, Maloney, Patrick should serve as an insight vs a debate ovr which crook u trust the most. THERE ARE NO TRUE PEDIGREES....
I used CA Jack as an example of how people will say anything & I purposely DID NOT mention 21st century breeders/dogmen as to not discredit the work they've done after the illegitimacy of certain dogs in current pedigrees. I only hope to hv the same or better success in retrospect to the Hounds I lost in 2006.