DISPUTED OR FAKE PEDS FROM THE PAST AND PRESENT .

[Foxman]

ProjectX You win. Whoever you like is honest and tells the straight up scoop. If anyone disagrees with your they are wrong. Why do you ask anyone their opinion if it doesn't count. How many dogs have you fought? Mistro. You are the king of opinion. Have you ever done anything else but talk dogs. I would have to destroy Mayfield with facts and words to destroy you but I am not going there. I've already told you he was a great dogman. That you already know. I wish I'd never talked on here. I'm done with you.I told you to put up or shut up. You won't do either so I have to shut up to not hear you. By everyone.

[projectx]

ProjectX You win. Whoever you like is honest and tells the straight up scoop. If anyone disagrees with your they are wrong. Why do you ask anyone their opinion if it doesn't count. How many dogs have you fought? Mistro. You are the king of opinion. Have you ever done anything else but talk dogs. I would have to destroy Mayfield with facts and words to destroy you but I am not going there. I've already told you he was a great dogman. That you already know. I wish I'd never talked on here. I'm done with you.I told you to put up or shut up. You won't do either so I have to shut up to not hear you. By everyone.

Randy i have my opinions just like anyone else has them, and just like you or me we hope that people agree with what we may say as that is human nature , but for me to disagree with anyone they would at least have to make a commnet for me to disagree with in the first place, and you randy have only made one commnet on the dogs mentioned in this thread, and that was about tombstone,and how you believe that he was out of gina, but say notihng on any other dog, especially blind billy, so dont start trying to say that i only want people to agrree with me becuse i dont, i want poeple to give a true and honest opinion based on the facts presented such as they are ,not on who they like more or whos dogs they run.

I could say the same about you come to that , but at least i try to put forward a reasonable argument for why i beleive a dog may or may not be bred a certain way, and i already agreed with you in part that although i tend to believe that baby and not gina was the dam, based on the evidence and overall gut feeling , i still said contrary to you saying( i only want you or anyone else to agree with me ) that one of you guys as you had said categorically that gina was on maloneys yard at the exact time tombstone was whelped , and i said that another man told the story that bob wallace had gina on his yard , so maloney and you might be mistaken just as bob wallace might have been mistaken , i just happened to think baby is the dam, more because of what i heard maloney say on the audio to mayfield , and also because maloney did have a deal in place with earls pure bitches , but again i said that its a he said she said case and one that my gut tells me is baby yours tells you is gina , and i can live with that .

But just to put your little theory about anyone i believe is honest and anyone i dont believe in like floyd is not true, i know don was no saint just like floyd maloney and many more , and im sure theres been things mayfild did that we could say something about absolutley im not an idiot, but this thread as i keep reminding you randy is about famous dogs with disputed pedigrees and apart from tombstone on which i am happy to agree to disagree with you as their is
every chance that maybe gina was the dam and maybe not, but in the blind billy and eli case , and even i am getting tired of repeating myself for your benefit but the evidence is pretty much overwhelming and still you dont give a game reply but try to cop out by trying to turn the tables asking me hogwash questions as to somehow avoid having to make an honest and truth full answer to the question. And as you know where i stand on the blind billy eli subject all you have to do is say either i beleive floyd or mayfield and others as it wasnt only mayfield who always felt blind billy wasnt bred as floyd said or eli, so to claim i disagree whith anyone who doesnt agree with me is a mute point untill you actually say what you think without trying dance around the subject which your still doing i cant disagree with you can i. I hope that if you do give us an answer rather than running away from it as you keep threatening to do on every post that doesnt agreee with you rather than accuse me of that, you might explain how you think blind billy could be the son of dibo because if thats what you think randy , that might be a little tricky but id love to hear that .

Finally randy i think im stating the obvious here but your comment about me saying that if anyone disagrees with me they are wrong , is what most people you included think about an opposing view if they think ,as i do that i am correct just like you think you are correct ,so we could say that about everybody who unless shown a reason that proves them wrong will
always disagree with the opposite version, but i can say to you that if i was a floyd worshipper and hadnt known about the timeline for dibo and billy or the crybaby litter and other evidence albeit circumstantial from dogmen and the like , i might also be saying i beleive floyd , but when i am shown something more than hearsay that gives me more than a just a hearsay and whos side do i take decsion to make depending on who i like or whos dogs i run , then with the evidence on blind blly and eli i would have to say it must be true, and so far randy eventhough i dont agree with you on tombstones dam, i am open to the possibilty that it might have been gina, just as i am open to the possibilty on other dogs with disputed pedigrees, but on billy and eli i cant pretend to be blind regardless of who i like more ,and you will not see me defending mayfield or other dogmen who i like but i know are not angels when i am presented with more than hearsay on sometihng like the subject of this thread, so randy i dont care if you agree or disaagree i am as confident about the true breeding of eli and the unknown breeding of blind billy as i or anyone else could ever be, and if you agree it wouldnt be because im saying so ,it would be becasue in this case the evidence points there , and it would seem a shame that you would rather say nothing on something so obvious and i hope i am wrong and that you will give your view based on the evidence .