Quote Originally Posted by CA Jack View Post
I am not coming to anyone's defense, per se, but my questions are these:

Why do you care what Limey does, and how (in any way) does it affect you?

Jack
Hi jack , this thread is about the cost of stud fees and the justification of them , or at least the discussion as to what is expected from prospective stud dogs etc and i think my posts about the cost in the case of limeys kingpin is a reasonable one ,given not just the stud fee but the very high extra costs that would be incurred going forward with it.

You ask me what do i care what limey does , and how does it affect me , which seems to me to be a defense of limey and i must assume that you feel that his stud fee and overall cost to breed to his dog which has no record in any department as yet is a fair and normal cost ,and requires no one asking limey or any other stud dog owner who expects any prospective taker of a high stud fee to their expensive stud dog to ever ask them why they are asking such a high stud fee comapred to the normal fees that i have stated before in other posts of between $500 to$1500 comapred to limeys base stud fee of $2.700 plus the extra costs , especially for a dog that has yet to prove itself in any way , and that you feel my question as to why he feels the stud fee and extra costs associated with it are questions that should never be asked by anyone and to just be accepted without question ,which would seem a foolish thing to do in any walk of life when making a purchase including the dogs.

I hope i have assumed incorrectly in your feeling that way , as i would have though that you of all people would also want to have some balance in this field of stud fees and costs, and like any other product we can buy , the costs are normally associsted with a products quality , and in the case of bulldogs that normally means a stud fee is relative to what the stud dog has done in either of the two fields we tend to feel merits some acknowledgement in the game , of which as far as i can see and unless limey tells us otherwise his dog has yet to achieve anything in either of those two fields as yet to merit even the normal range top end stud fee of $1500 let alone $2.700 plus the extras . Yes he can ask what he likes , and maybe instead of defending him he should maybe defend himself if you or he feel my question is so unfair on him ,in so far as it would be of interest to know why he feels his dog and the very high overal cost to take a breeding to his dog is somnething we should be thinking about doing , rather than keeping quiet ,which seems to me to say that he cant really give an answer as to why the cost should be so high apart form the fact that it is very high and just keep quiet and dont ask awkward questions.

I myself jack like to fight my own battles ,and you will never find me pm ing you to complain about another member who posts or says very normal things about me , and asking you to do sometihng about it, as some people have a name for that already on other forums , so much so that they have been booted out of them for always crying to the mods about other people as they cant answer basic questions when put to them, and the forums just had enough of that guy and told him to go away and grow some balls instead of always crying to them to help him, i will never do that and as i say maybe limey should give us an insight into the stud fee for his dog, maybe we can understand why , rather than have you defend him and ask me the questions you asked me, i think maybe asking limey the same questions i asked him and others have would have made more sense given the extreme cost anyone would have had to incurr taking a breeding to his dog comapred to other much more acknowleged dogs at a much lower cost in stud fee alone , would have been a question lots of us would like to,know. Had he asked a stud fee within the normal range , then i would never have said a word ,albeit still very costly as to the extra costs , but at least it would have been a stud fee with reasonable bounds ,which quite frankly his is not at the moment and im surprised you dont feel it in some way needs some kind of explanation on limeys part , but you ask me something about why im asking limey about his stud fee, mmm doesnt seem to make sense to me unless your taking sides ,which im sure your not jack, as in the interests of knowledge an answer from limey himself would im sure enlighten us all in one way or another .