Limey as you started this justifiyingstud fees , i would like to ask you to justify the stud fee for kingpin and the overall cost that i estimate a prospective buyer would have to end up paying at least $6000 once they got thier female back from you without a gurantee of pups as breedings whether surgical or live dont always work so even if you give a refund on the stud fee , there would still be more than $3000 in other costs such as shipping vet fees which would not be refunded im sure .Originally Posted by Limey Kennels
The normal way most folks get their dogs bred is within their own country by either driving to the male or mybe nowadays they have fresh or frozen semen shipped , with the frozen costing a lot more as the shipping is expensive as the liquid nitrogen container has to be shipped both ways , but most folks i believe still do it the old fashioned way and take their female even if it means a long drive there and back , but the costs for fuel and maybe an overnight stay in a motel might add $300 to tha overall cost so its not to compare with what it wouyld cost to breed under your rules to kingpin.
The other thing i think we would like to know , is how you come to a price of $2.700 for the stud fee, as the dog is not a gr ch and evn if you can ask what you like , i believe there should be some overall reason as to why kingpin has such a high stud fee for a dog that has never done anything to merit the price, and if breeding to an aligator dog is what someone wants to do ,then in the usa htere are still some excellent and old aligator lines jsut as good and probably better and from working dogs that are no more than $1000 to $1500 and that goes for many ch and gr ch dogs from many other bloodlines also.
I know there are owners out there of some of the more popular winners that have charged very high stud fees , but they arec few and far between , with most working dogs falling within and much lower stud fee range than yours , and without the ristrictions you impose on who can breed to kingpin which means only the usa and canada or possibly the latin american countries but not hte whole of europe east or west , so that means no one can just drive to you and take a normal breeding they must incurr these extra costs on top of the stud fee which in itself is not realsitic even if the dog was a ch which he is not .
I feel that if a dogs stud fee is so high especially for a non working dog , then there should be some realistic price on the stud fee , as there are many well bred dogs which can be bred to for less than half yuor asking price and with minimal other costs to your main market which under yuor rules would be the usa and canada by and large.
Why you feel knigpin is worht more than $1000 stud fee would be nice to know , i cant beleive you will say becasue of how he is bred , as there are many other better bred dogs than kingpin with reasonable stud fees , so i am curious to know your reason for your fee, especially when the econmy is bad and like many ohter things in times like these people dont have the kind of money your are expecting them to pay to breed to your dog .
The appox total cost i feel would be broken down like this and i feel it would be a mintotal and could be as much as $2k more depending on shiping and vets fees which are not in the buyers control .
STUD FEE $2.7K
crate/rabiesshot/microchip vet cert $300
shipping both ways between $2k and $4k
vets fees min $1/2k
min total 6k could be as much as $7/8k
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