I'm not saying that breeders out there are not needed or do not deserve credit I'm simply saying when it comes to winning the breeders derserves no credit outside of making the breeding that produced happen. Fords build car but they don't tune them or race them. But my main point is this the owners win/lose records reflex on him and only him the breeder you often only hear about the winning side of that record so they have less involved less input and less on the line over all which entitles them to less credit for winning