Thanks brotha...yea that's exactly what I'm doing. Asking around...getting fact and opinion. Doing some research. Can't believe everything you read on the net. That's why I'm trying to engage in conversation about it with legit dogmen and finding someone who knows about him and other dogs that is a honest person. Honesty is a hard thing to find anywhere now days. Especially in this hobby. I do appreciate your comments and everyone who posted. But...there's only so much info out there. I know he's being bred with machete...my buddy got a pup this year out of Momo and machete. Momo was sired by Ceaser. So far the pup looks good. Again...just like mine...to young to tell. I've seen Momo and Ceaser. Both look great. Momo is Ch also. How either are as producers I dont know. This is my first venture into this bloodline so I'm a sponge at the moment so to say on the lines genetics and anything else that may do with the line. I hate starting over! Lol. I never was big time...just eat sleep and breath apbt as a hobby. I'm gonna keep prowling...see what I can learn or uncover. I'm still listening if anyone has anything on the bloodline in general or Ceaser and Crocodile.