Gr Ch Titere
Gr Ch Titere
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It's no secret that there have been many many accusations about Jack Kelly and Crenshaw making up reports for the journal. I've heard my fair share of them that's for sure, but like everything in dogs I've heard all sorts of stories and wouldn't know what to believe.
The only time a dog man tells the truth is when he calls another dogman a liar. And the only thing dogmen agree on is that their dogs are the best.
Originally Posted by Macker
Well, that is exactly WHY having a transparent voting system is superior to "an old editor" running a private mag, is it not?
It would be pretty hard for me to sit here and watch person-after-person vote for Titere ... and then give my buddy a DOY title
Also, to defend the editors a bit, they may really believe the story of the guy on the phone ("Yeah, he beat a 4xW in an hour,") but the dog really beat a 0xW.
Gr Ch Ol School supposedly beat a Champion for his last ... but, through the transparency of the internet, his last opponent is believed to have LIED and only had a 0xW.
And didn't the new SDJ award DOY status to some bitch Champion Scratch & Go had that never really won anything?
This is why the idea of throwing it all onto the table, to be debated, is better than just waiting for an editor to make a random decision at the end of the year ...
The DOY title should NOT be one guy's decision IMO, but it should be a general consensus.
It doesn't have to be as unanimous as Titere, but there should be at least an acknowledgement that all the dogs in consideration HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE.
Jack
As for mayday getting doy I don't think we were not as evolved as we are now. He made a name for himself he did beat quality opposition prior to his 5th. I also think the way he won #5 also swayed folks to agree nd not really question him getting the title. We know him doing all that traveling, keep falling apart etc....
As far as old school goes I know there was a real good bona fide ch that wanted him bad nd old schools owner respectfully declined nd went for another supposed ch instead. Jack it was old schools first win that was said to be a ch but after the dust settled it was learned he faced a 0xw
Exactly. What we have available now (transparency/community participation) blows away anything any magazine can offer.
I know Mayday beat some quality dogs prior to his last, but didn't we just say earlier in this thread that "what you did last year" shouldn't affect this year's DOY title?
Mayday is a legit Grand Champion, POR/ROM, and an all-time great dog.
But the question is, should his last win have earned him a DOY title, if we're looking at things as we do today?
I agree, we are definitely more evolved ... which is ultimately going to give more credence to the title of DOY, I think.
What "supposed Champion" did Old School beat for his last?
Thanks,
Jack
Gr Ch Hank (5xW)
I seen one of the hogs old school beat. The hog was taken back out. The hog was a piece of shit. The hog was giving oldie all the work at the end according to the people that was there.
I'm not a hater but that hog was no good comp. They took him back out after he got picked up and they should left him down.
No ability no mouth. The keep was garbage. I can see old school s camp hand picking hogs. No way should he be doy. The comp wasn't stiff enough.
I seen the comp. Most dog men won't feed that bum oddie went into. The all black bum was taken back out into a red and white bum. Oldie might be a good dog but that comp was very suspect.
Old school is a well respected dog. But no way shape or form is he doy. He needs to answer the calls of the stiffer hogs that's out there.
Shout out to oldie. Maybe this year he can achieve that title.
Good luck
I thought Ol Skool was dead, hung himself?
Amazing that people who can make a 6xW are still too clueless to keep their dogs out of harm's way ... and can't even get the basics of "make sure a dog can't hang itself" under control
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