THE BADDEST DOGS IN HISTORY

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He was 11 or 12 in that picture. He was old and sickly because he had an incredibly hard life the first 6-8 years. I can't vouch for 17 but he did win once over one of the Gaston Buck bred dogs in a short order RIP and then again over a G-Force Virgil/Clemmons Maverick/Sixbits bred dog. Both of those were RIP shows. He was extremely intense with a tremendous amount of mouth and he throat checked dogs early. The Gaston Buck bred dog was a one hold show. They were released and his first hold was a deep full grip in the throat and he never came out. Seems like it took 15-20 minutes to make a handle but it was over before that.

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=37883

This is a female I had some time ago. Her littermate brother ended up a lot like the Ritz dog. It sounds odd to say, but their fatal character flaw was simply they would not quit. They lived in a less than ideal place where they were pulled off the chain every time someone wanted to see two dog's fight. Ramera de Negra's littermate brother went over an hour four-five-six Saturdays in a row. The fifth and sixth were done on top of injuries from #1 that were never healed and barely treated. There is no telling how many dogs he stopped by just not stopping himself. Average mouth, average ability but rough and durable, with enough heart for ten dogs.

Ritz fell into a similar situation early on. EWO

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He was 11 or 12 in that picture. He was old and sickly because he had an incredibly hard life the first 6-8 years. I can't vouch for 17 but he did win once over one of the Gaston Buck bred dogs in a short order RIP and then again over a G-Force Virgil/Clemmons Maverick/Sixbits bred dog. Both of those were RIP shows. He was extremely intense with a tremendous amount of mouth and he throat checked dogs early. The Gaston Buck bred dog was a one hold show. They were released and his first hold was a deep full grip in the throat and he never came out. Seems like it took 15-20 minutes to make a handle but it was over before that.

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=37883

This is a female I had some time ago. Her littermate brother ended up a lot like the Ritz dog. It sounds odd to say, but their fatal character flaw was simply they would not quit. They lived in a less than ideal place where they were pulled off the chain every time someone wanted to see two dog's fight. Ramera de Negra's littermate brother went over an hour four-five-six Saturdays in a row. The fifth and sixth were done on top of injuries from #1 that were never healed and barely treated. There is no telling how many dogs he stopped by just not stopping himself. Average mouth, average ability but rough and durable, with enough heart for ten dogs.

Ritz fell into a similar situation early on. EWO

Appreciate the feedback and rendition.

Is that the best you can do with your dog entry ... just a dog name?

Should I just put in Poncho for my dog, Mayday, Jeep, etc.? Get rid of all the owner/kennel names ... and just have a bunch of ownerless/breederless dogs floating around here?

Would look pretty lame and sloppy wouldn't it?

That's kinda how that looks.

Did that dog have an owner?

If so, can you please put the owner's name in front of the dog, as is the proper way to register any dog?

Thanks

Jack

PS: Throat dogs are murder.

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The 'UNKNOWN' buttons for the breeder and owner were never active and I can't click on them to update. We had a power failure when I was making the pedigree and when I completed the pedigree at a later time those options were no longer available to me. I also found that some of the pedigrees I made were the same way. I contacted CYJ about the pedigree sections I did not have access to and he fixed them.

If the 'UNKNOWN' section for breeder and owner are active I will make the corrections/additions.

And yes to both questions, looked lame in comparison and throat dogs are murder. EWO

Appreciate the feedback and rendition.

Is that the best you can do with your dog entry ... just a dog name?

Should I just put in Poncho for my dog, Mayday, Jeep, etc.? Get rid of all the owner/kennel names ... and just have a bunch of ownerless/breederless dogs floating around here?

Would look pretty lame and sloppy wouldn't it?

That's kinda how that looks.

Did that dog have an owner?

If so, can you please put the owner's name in front of the dog, as is the proper way to register any dog?

Thanks

Jack

PS: Throat dogs are murder.

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The 'UNKNOWN' buttons for the breeder and owner were never active and I can't click on them to update. We had a power failure when I was making the pedigree and when I completed the pedigree at a later time those options were no longer available to me. I also found that some of the pedigrees I made were the same way. I contacted CYJ about the pedigree sections I did not have access to and he fixed them.

If the 'UNKNOWN' section for breeder and owner are active I will make the corrections/additions.

And yes to both questions, looked lame in comparison and throat dogs are murder. EWO

Okay, thanks.

The dog became a "core dog" when we created that feature. I have changed this and you can now edit.

Would you please complete the entry on it?

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=37883

Also, adding some of his history to the notes would be interesting too, for those who come upon the pedigree but might not have read this thread

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http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=46998

This male was owned by the same guy that had my female's littermate I posted above. There is no telling how many he stopped, killed, ruined before he was rescued by Pure Power. From that point he won four, twice going over 2:30. I would not make a claim for a bunch of "wins" but I would not be afraid to say he 'did in' 10-12 before he actually won four.

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http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=46998

This male was owned by the same guy that had my female's littermate I posted above. There is no telling how many he stopped, killed, ruined before he was rescued by Pure Power. From that point he won four, twice going over 2:30. I would not make a claim for a bunch of "wins" but I would not be afraid to say he 'did in' 10-12 before he actually won four.

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That is how Darth Vader won 12 ... he was owned by Ricky Franklin in MS, who would bicycle the dog around the hood and "match" the dog into anyone with a bulldog. Vader won his first over the X-Men at 10 months of age. Lost to the Xmen at 13 months of age, where Zeus and Frank Jr. told me he was still acting like a puppy.

I cussed Ricky out for fighting the dog so young, so we never spoke again after that, but a decade later Zeus and Frank Jr. of Xmen were over at my yard buying a few dogs, and they told me they advised Ricky to let him grow up, because he was so HUGE for his weight and so brutal. After the age of 2 Ricky fought the dog 11 more times and won every fight. Darth Vader won 12 fights total ... and XMen told me he would have been a living legend in the hands of a top dogman. Frank Jr said the dogs was an ace ear dog that could kill in the throat also. I have had small dogs like that, but this was a Mayday-sized dog, yet untouchable, could finish with one hold. The sad thing is, his resume isn't worth talking about, because most of the fights were local yokel deals. The dog was never bred and died of heartworms. Same level of "care" as Ritz.

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That photo of Ritz was taken on the yard of a greenhorn who had him at the time for breeding purposes...The guy tried to hook Ritz up with a female he had in heat and ole boy hit the bitch in the guts and killed her before he knew what was going own...Scared the shit out of him and he just stopped feeding and taking care of the dog....Would not even take the dog out of the car when he brought it back to Carl....Now 17 wins I don't know but he got a few for sure....The dog was a pure Animal in the woods....He thought it was supper time....The dog had a hard life....

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Couple things on that ped....Hollands Dollar and Hollands Red Girl are littermates....Also on peds online it seems a lot of the dogs out of Red Baron and Miss Spazz have James Edwards breeding them...This is also false...While James did get some pups off of both dogs he never had anything to do with either and they were never on his yard at any time...Both dogs were bought from Vernon Jackson by Tim Pernell....Dwight Pulley and his partner went and picked them up for Tim from VJ....While he was still in SC....Dwight Pulley later got both dogs when Tim was shot and killed 1 night after a dispute at a local store....

Hate to Hijack the thread..

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Couple things on that ped....Hollands Dollar and Hollands Red Girl are littermates....Also on peds online it seems a lot of the dogs out of Red Baron and Miss Spazz have James Edwards breeding them...This is also false...While James did get some pups off of both dogs he never had anything to do with either and they were never on his yard at any time...Both dogs were bought from Vernon Jackson by Tim Pernell....Dwight Pulley and his partner went and picked them up for Tim from VJ....While he was still in SC....Dwight Pulley later got both dogs when Tim was shot and killed 1 night after a dispute at a local store....

Hate to Hijack the thread..

Not a hijack at all, good feedback with clarifying info.

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No hijacking. I could tell that same story but it is always better coming from the source. Tim was a few years older than me but we played a little baseball together in he mid 80's. Heck of an arm. All that happened while I was away.

Speaking of hijacking, you should type while Pops talks and drop some of that old school knowledge.

He will laugh here. "You can come back anytime you like, but don't bring that loud mouthed SOB with you"

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