Should Showing EXTREME GAMENESS be Part of DOY Candidacy?

[No Quarter Kennel]

I voted NO. I think DOY is a performance title. I would like to think it means for the period of that year a certain dog won over the stiffest of competition. I do not know a lot about this year's odds on favorite (PBB DOY) but the fact he won as many as he did and beat a dog who had won just about as many as he did would get my vote for DOY.

If one of the dog's he totally outclassed yet made those chin scraping, legs broken scratches were on the ballot I would not vote him for DOY. But if there was a category for GameDog of the Year that dog that showed that gameness would get my vote, and the winner/loser would not factor in.

I consider DOY as the best total package dog for that given year. I think it was in a previous post, but the gamest dogs find themselves on the 'losing' side of the bracket, simply by running into a more talented/higher ability dog. And, unfortunately, and I do not agree, that 'losing game dog' often ends up seen as a plug. If that same dog did the exact same thing, yet won, for whatever reason, his gameness is deemed more valuable.

I like the idea of having multiple year end titles. I like the idea of Kennel of the Year, and maybe even Producer of the Year as well. No other 'organization' has just one year end award. I mean at 9PM the Oscars come on, they make one award announcement, and then its if off by 9:04.

I would love to see another category "Gamest DOY". For me, and it is my personal opinion, GDOY would be more impressive than DOY. EWO

As usual - well said

[S_B]

Yes Mister game dogs are the epitome of what these dogs are hence the name.

I know where Pit Bull Committed is coming from though. I've known many dogmen who would also cull a game plug in search of a match dog. Typically these men have no interests in breeding stock so that type of animal has no value to them.

I certainly would never cull a dog who never stopped trying, I think it is backwards thinking. If you don't want to continue with them send them to someone who will. These are the dogs who possess the foundation to build upon.

S_B

[Officially Retired]

Typically these men have no interests in breeding stock so that type of animal has no value to them.

Like I said, dog butchers, not dogmen.

And they seldom have really good records either.

Jack

[No Quarter Kennel]

Like I said, dog butchers, not dogmen.

And they seldom have really good records either.

Jack

Jack, I get where you are coming from, but there are a lot of good dogmen in the area that I'm in, who have no interest in breeding. They are actually humane, but on the same hand, do not have any use for a dog who cannot win in dominant fashion. Their win/loss records are as good as anyone on the planet. Simply b/c they have no use for a dog that is ONLY game does not mean they murder/cull/or destroy the animals, it only means they have no use for them. Me? Sure, I'll feed and breed a game dog, but again, I'm not doing what they are doing and not on their level.

I'm not taking a 205lb guy who can take a beating and never stop but can do nothing else, to fight Jon Jones. It's not a smart business decision.

[Black Hand]

Mister, most people can't win with a dog like that. They need all kinds of mouth, ability, and all the strengths to pull out a win. There are some guys who don't have the balls to let it ride and give one the chance unless they feel like they are a heavy favorite. Nobody likes to lose, but some are terrified by it. A good durable game dog is as hard as any to beat.

[DUKE_CITY]

Gamest dog of the year should get titled. I'm all for a gdoy.

That would shake the game up.

[Macker]

Gameness is the foundation that all these once in a lifetime world beaters where built on, if the men that laid these foundations had the same cull cull cull attitude that some guys have, these animals would have never been born.

We have a saying and that's that you'll get no luck for killing a gamedog, an old dog or a pup.

A gamedog has done all within his ability and still wants to do more, an old dog has obviously been a loyal servant and just because he or she can't produce pups anymore they've earned the right to live their days out in peace and a pup, if you don't have space for them then don't bring them into the world, it's not their fault we get greedy.

I'm not religious but I believe we still need a bit of luck in this game, truth be know we need a lot lol

Don't get me wrong, no body wants a yard full of game plugs but if you find yourself with a yard full of them, don't question the dogs, question the way you've bred them. Because More than likely your breeding methods have given you a yard full of rubbish.

[No Quarter Kennel]

Gameness is the foundation that all these once in a lifetime world beaters where built on, if the men that laid these foundations had the same cull cull cull attitude that some guys have, these animals would have never been born.

We have a saying and that's that you'll get no luck for killing a gamedog, an old dog or a pup.

A gamedog has done all within his ability and still wants to do more, an old dog has obviously been a loyal servant and just because he or she can't produce pups anymore they've earned the right to live their days out in peace and a pup, if you don't have space for them then don't bring them into the world, it's not their fault we get greedy.

I'm not religious but I believe we still need a bit of luck in this game, truth be know we need a lot lol

Don't get me wrong, no body wants a yard full of game plugs but if you find yourself with a yard full of them, don't question the dogs, question the way you've bred them. Because More than likely your breeding methods have given you a yard full of rubbish.

You just said if you have a yard full of game dogs, then you have rubbish????

[bulldoghistorian]

Dunno the longer I am in these dogs gameness has a limit
I doubt any dog could just go on and on , I mean if a dog would have to show gameness on and on , the tear on his body
he probably wouldn't even make it to nr 5
I have seen quite a few and seen those that would show extreme gameness only to be brought out again and quit in short time

[No Quarter Kennel]

Dunno the longer I am in these dogs gameness has a limit
I doubt any dog could just go on and on , I mean if a dog would have to show gameness on and on , the tear on his body
he probably wouldn't even make it to nr 5
I have seen quite a few and seen those that would show extreme gameness only to be brought out again and quit in short time

Honestly - I think like you do.
I think that every single one will quit and they all have a clock that is ticking. The more damage they take, the faster the clock ticks. Less recovery they get, the faster the clock is ticking. It goes on and on.

Any dog and every dog born CAN BE STOPPED!