((( DOY 2014 ... TOP 5 MALES/FEMALES ... LIST THEM! )))

[Officially Retired]

Much respect to RB and Grch Setanta. He did his last in 2:01 at 6yrs old for #6 too. Grch Kid for his last went up 2.2lbs from his best weight and spotted another 1/2lb at the scales and pulled it off over a 2xw who he curred in 1:40. Two very nice nominees for sure. I completely forgot about them. Also both did go in 2014.

Who did Gr Ch Setana go into (# of wins the opponents had also)?
Did he make it? I would be interested to know his full record, as Kid's is displayed.

I agree that Gr Ch Kid does have an awesome resume in the past, but the Crveni/Bak dog looks like kind of a veteran palooka/warhorse ... good enough to go 4x (and win half of them) ... but not truly elite material. The fact that Kid also spotted him virtually 3 lb of weight is telling. Although Kid faced the best to be had early in his career, honestly that last one seems more like a "padded win" for Kid than a truly elite-level showdown ... like Gr Ch Titere (6xW/DOY) vs. Gr Ch Homer Balboa (6xW/DOY).

Again, curious as to what Gr Ch Setana won over and if he made it. You said, "He did his last in 2:01 at 6yrs old for #6 too," but there's no mention of quality of opposition.

For the record, many of these European dogs seem to have fantastic physiques, almost having their own "type" ...

Jack

[EGK]

Grch Kid's resume is the only one I must say notch for notch compares with Titere with Titere's biggest win being more recent though and devastating. That makes me say Titere still.

[EGK]

Bulldoghistorian I thought he beat Buck 2xw in June of 2014 myself. Buck himself didn't have much of a record for as opponents it seems with a :13 win over 1xw, then 3:17 with a 3xl, and being spotted 2 1/2lbs and couldn't do enough in 1:40. Also I just went back and read and yes it was.

Buck's ped (really spelled Bak)

1XW. in 13 min. vs SU team

2XW. in 3h 17 min. vs Brothers Knl's MICO 1XW 3XL. Lose in 1h 40 min. vs GOLDEN KING'S KID GR CH 5XW D.O.Y

[EGK]

Not much more I can say on Setanta. The guys across the pond will have to help you there. Not sure how much his owner cares to be known. They introduced him to the conversation though and know more what going on on their side of the world. Also it does seem like they value the older traits of the breed. More square dogs balanced with long strong necks. Not many of the 2 dogs long 1 high types. More durable on the crowns of their toes dogs.

[bulldoghistorian]

Not much more I can say on Setanta. The guys across the pond will have to help you there. Not sure how much his owner cares to be known. They introduced him to the conversation though and know more what going on on their side of the world. Also it does seem like they value the older traits of the breed. More square dogs balanced with long strong necks. Not many of the 2 dogs long 1 high types. More durable on the crowns of their toes dogs.

ricky and I go way back
I know some of the blokes in the area don't care for the info tough
hence I did not mention opponents

I know many of the main players where sentanta was shown

it is top notch and there is a rich history on working dogs

its time we let the old times live and travel again so I can whoop some ass

[bulldoghistorian]

I feel the need to enlighten the people

the old continent is much or less divided

1) east ( balkan , ukraine , and former eastern countries)
2) a) EU North
b) EU south
3) isles

there is almost no travel between 1 and the rest
2 and 3 on rare occasions but off lately almost zero

1 has a seperate set of rules
2 and 3 cajun rules

in 1 comp is crazy there shows on a daily basis with kennels almost every 10 miles

[Officially Retired]

I feel the need to enlighten the people

the old continent is much or less divided

1) east ( balkan , ukraine , and former eastern countries)
2) a) EU North
b) EU south
3) isles

there is almost no travel between 1 and the rest
2 and 3 on rare occasions but off lately almost zero

1 has a seperate set of rules
2 and 3 cajun rules

in 1 comp is crazy there shows on a daily basis with kennels almost every 10 miles

Interesting info ...

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Im not trying to take anything away from any of the dogs and i also dont know about all of the dogs but in my opinion the DOY title should be based on that year. Time seems to be flying but wasnt Titere and Homer in 2013? If it was then i would assume that Titere and Lotto was 2014. Gr Ch T Rex won his fifth in 2014 against a 2xw. How could those accomplishments surpass a dog that beats a 2xer, 4xer, and 3xer in the same year?

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Im not trying to take anything away from any of the dogs and i also dont know about all of the dogs but in my opinion the DOY title should be based on that year. Time seems to be flying but wasnt Titere and Homer in 2013? If it was then i would assume that Titere and Lotto was 2014. Gr Ch T Rex won his fifth in 2014 against a 2xw. How could those accomplishments surpass a dog that beats a 2xer, 4xer, and 3xer in the same year?

Titere hit the lotto first then hit the jackpot again in 2014 to decimate Balboa which IMO was the best hunt in 2014 bc both were in their prime plus the accomplishments both put on the line. A winner take all type deal, there were no other hunts of that magnitude

[gotap_d]

Titere hit the lotto first then hit the jackpot again in 2014 to decimate Balboa which IMO was the best hunt in 2014 bc both were in their prime plus the accomplishments both put on the line. A winner take all type deal, there were no other hunts of that magnitude

Ok. Thanks I thought balboa was 2013 my mistake.

Does anyone know the opponents of gr ch sweetie?