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have you ever heard of being able to conditioning and feeding a dog in sutch a way where you can beat a better dog ten your own bij prolonging his first wind in order to work on a down that hits the wall afther 25/30 min!!. being able to do the most significant work in those 5 to 10 min where your dog has alonger wind!. just like having 2 500 hp cars at the strip, where one has to shift at 5000 rpm and the other at 6000 rpm. taking a little lead at every shift!! yet they both have the same horshe power!!.. Ore force that better dog to go along and burn himself up!!?? PUSHING ITSELF IN THE RPM RED ZONE... sure you do NEED a working dog to do so. but thats fine tunnig Jack.
lots of people today stil dont realize that LESS CAN BE MORE. working a dog for 2 ore 3 days in a row and rest them!??. And where you can beat a better dog then your own when feeding conditioning and sups are tunned into one.. you whant to talk nutritien suplemends and conditioning, and lay it out on the table???. Im sure the people here whant to see how deep the rabbit holle is.. and whant to know what REAL understanding of it al is.. and how WE have aprotchst it in one of the most up to date ways to bring a dog in shape.. bij shortining the keep over the cours of 35 years and rely more on feeding and suplemends.
Last but not least. the gross of the dogs been seen the last 15 years. 15% of the dogs have lost on quality, the rest 85% lost on FEEDING and conditioning. NOT on quality.. thats how high the level of comp is in some parts of the world......let me give tyou a hint on modern day meds and sups you every heard of ANARESP... copy/paste from Limey post.
We have been using this method for years. I just worded it a little differently. EWO
Exactly. Tapping back to another post it is a team sport. I like the athletic and smart game dog because then my conditioning efforts make a good contribution to the team. By him being athletic we can work him to be physically capable of handling the first wave. With his intelligence he will position himself to counter that first wave. The combination of the two will allow him to lay some pipe immediately after the first wave and continue to lay some pipe before the next. The athleticism and physicality after the first wave will decrease the height and strength of the second wave. This builds a lead. The secondary effect from this is the other dog grabs another gear to catch up. From there the amount of time his keep has made available to him in the beginning begins to decrease. He is somewhere really close to panic effort. Panic effort always burns more gas. The smart and athletic dog offsets this barrage as well. When the barrage fades that lead is increased and continues to increase as one dog fades and the athleticism (as well as the keep) takes over. The gap between the two widens with every passing minute. Credit seldom goes to this winning dog. Mostly because he did not bite shit in half at minute one. Partly because smarts and intelligence is always the underdog in comparison to mouth. When a dog uses smarts and intelligence to win there is always ten guys pit side with one at home that can beat him. If the destroyer mops the floor with one few have one for him. Just the way I have seen it. EWO
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I agree EWO. When it comes to conditioning, I enjoy reading what Limey has to say..I understand exactly how he work his dogs because its very similar to how I work mine. I also enjoy yours too cause not a lot of people will risk keeping their dogs at pit weight or below, throughout the keep like we do
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Who's the one making news of it now? Thought the guy was respectful for a change, but you want to start throwing mud and making excuses? Just say so cause you're going to lose. Be a man and talk to the guy if you got a problem instead of typing on some board.
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Limey, why you always have to talk smack? I mean, you have an amazing ability to ramble on about nothing, and totally wander off-topic. In case you forgot, the topic is raw vs. kibble, and the incredibly silly things you said the first time you addressed me (when I never addressed you).
I don't have time to wander down the 10-dozen aimless paths you've gone down, at the moment, because I've spent what time I have tonight answering other topics/PMs, etc.
But I'll be back to have some fun here, probably Monday night. I have other stuff to do tonight, and then a busy weekend, and I just won't have the 2+ hours it will take to dissect your insanity and put it back together again correctly ... so enjoy this while it lasts ... but, remember, nothing you've said has changed the facts about raw vs. kibble.
Oh, and before I go, since you want to "go there," actually my family of dogs has over 400 wins, 50+ Champions, and at least 10 Grand Champions ... all compiled in less time than you've been in the game ... so (I hate to burst your bubble) but your numbers don't impress me at all ... especially since you've been in longer than I have 
Jack
PS: And, BTW, my keep has produced more Champions and Grand Champions, all over the world, than yours ever has or ever will. You might want to read my testimonials before you type another word
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