View Poll Results: Is the Formation of a Bond Vital to Success?

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  • Forming a Bond is Vital to Success

    34 62.96%
  • Forming a Bond is an "Intangible" Element, that may (or may not) affect Success

    17 31.48%
  • Forming a Bond has nothing to do with Success

    3 5.56%
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Thread: THE IMPORTANCE OF A BOND BETWEEN MAN & DOG (Yes / No)

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  1. #1
    I know what your saying i do think he kept this dog wrong its like a wild dingo in temprement i sit out there for half hour each morning trying to gsin its trust or as i see it trying to bond with the dog i need it to want to hang out with me if that means im not a dogman cause i cant work a dog with out being mates with a dog or does that make me a dogman cause none of my dogs are like that who knows but i do know having a dog like this in my yard is a nuicanse...

  2. #2
    well i see people think that the bond means alot but no way like i said before to really determine a definitive answer it comes down to a matter of ones experiences like i said previously comes down to a matter of ones opinion at the end of the day feed what dogs you like spend what ever time you like with your dogs just because you see a method work for one individual doesnt mean that will work or wont work on the next do what works for you and sometimes better to keep that to yourself because in these dogs when u go seeking for opinions your gonna find alot them you may not agree with some might even offend you so if you think a bond is something detrimental top winning or having better dogs then more power to you .

  3. #3
    Anyone who's never cuddled with their bulldogs don't know what they're missing. Do you HAVE to cuddle with a dog to form a bond? Of course not. But it sure doesn't hurt, not to mention, they're soft and furry and keep your feet warm -- what's not to love?

  4. #4
    When in keep my dog (if it's one) lives inside the house and sleeps in my bed the whole keep.

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by skipper View Post
    When in keep my dog (if it's one) lives inside the house and sleeps in my bed the whole keep.
    How did I guess this would be the case?

  6. #6
    LOL, this is also the absolute best way to have constant oversight over your dog. Dogs tend to get insane when there are rest days and they start working on their own, digging or running all day. This won't happen if you have him by your side.

  7. #7
    Some animals do not need anything but food and water lol.
    There have been some dogs that have been down right neglected not just emotionally but I mean really neglected. Parasites, not being fed, etc.Animals that still proved to be great even though they were neglected and their owners idea of bringing one in properly was starving them down! I think its all individual based and dogs on both end of the spectrum can be equally successful. So in return of you not going that extra mile could mean you having to cull what couldve been everything you ever wanted in an animal.

  8. #8
    If you ever had a shy dog you would know the importance of a bond. As i said earlier some dogs are just so confident you only have to feed and properly condtition him. But the bond you can form with a shy dog is amazing. You can take a dog that never would be able to step in the woods with and turn it into a dog that will do everything you ask for. Some people don't bother with shy dogs, but some of the best dogs i've had the pleasure of owning were shy dogs that needed that extra time and effort to turn em around. Let me tell you it was well worth it.

  9. #9
    I dont like to deal with shy dogs simply because of the mind state.
    I like a dog to think he is gods gift to this world.

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Black Hand View Post
    Some animals do not need anything but food and water lol.
    There have been some dogs that have been down right neglected not just emotionally but I mean really neglected. Parasites, not being fed, etc.Animals that still proved to be great even though they were neglected and their owners idea of bringing one in properly was starving them down!
    There is a major difference between what a dog needs to achieve its best performance and what it "can get away with" and still win ...

    Every dog craves attention from its owner, and every dog needs basic care in order to perform at its best ... but some dogs are so good genetically that they can still "get away with" not having these needs met and yet still defeat average dogs.



    Quote Originally Posted by Black Hand View Post
    I think its all individual based and dogs on both end of the spectrum can be equally successful.
    I disagree that someone who totally neglects his dogs will be "equally successful" as a man of the same technical savvy and eye, who gives his dogs everything they need.

    No way that works out on a large scale.



    Quote Originally Posted by Black Hand View Post
    So in return of you not going that extra mile could mean you having to cull what couldve been everything you ever wanted in an animal.
    Agreed.



    Quote Originally Posted by Black Hand View Post
    I dont like to deal with shy dogs simply because of the mind state.
    Very few dogs, worked properly as pups all the way into adulthood, are truly shy. (I realize a small few are shy, regardless).

    Overall, most shy dogs are dogs that have simply been neglected by negligent owners, who don't bother to socialize their young dogs.



    Quote Originally Posted by Black Hand View Post
    I like a dog to think he is gods gift to this world.
    Agreed. I think a true bulldog is not a shy animal at all, but a fearless and confident animal. But even a fearless and confident animal still does better when fully-socialized and when having a good bond with his owner.

    Mohammed Ali was a great athlete and a great fighter. Maybe he could whip 99% of all men alive, even if he didn't train, wasn't at his best weight, wasn't fed the best food, and didn't have Angelo Dundee in his corner. But when he faced the very best in the world, then he damned sure benefited from having all his duckies in a row in these critical "intangible" categories

    By the same token, Sugar Ray Leonard could have whipped most of his opponents with any trainer, but when he was losing to Hearns in the 13th round of their first fight, again the key element of a World Class trainer with whom he had a great relationship fired Leonard up enough to take it to Hearns in the 14th and have the fight stopped.

    So yeah, when you're talking about superior bulldogs genetically, sure they can whip average dogs without too much else besides food and water ... same as the greatest boxers ever can (and have) whipped average palookas ... but when any fighter (man or dog) faces another truly elite fighter, then "the intangibles" are going to kick in more-and-more ... who is at their very best weight, who has trained the hardest, who has been eating the most optimal diet, who is hydrated optimally for the long haul, who truly has a good bond with their trainer and can be revitalized and pumped-up in the corner, etc., etc.

    If anyone remembers the difference in commitment, energy, and drive in Mike Tyson (when he had Cus D'Amato and Jimmy Jacobs in his corner, men he deeply admired and with whom he totally bonded) ... and the POS Tyson became when those men died and were replaced by brainless puppets ... the difference in Tyson's realized potential was literally night and day

    Jack

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