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  1. #1
    That is ...... up. Never thought I would end up with a totally different line of dogs from last week. I always thought Ch Hammer's stance looked different from a Bolio dog's. Oh well, can't do anything about it, might as well move on and try to make the best of what I already have.

  2. #2
    Look at it as a Godsend.

    Even though I didn't know the truth at the time, the fact is had I not bred to Ch Hammer I would have missed out on the singlemost important breeding I ever made ... because only after I made that breeding, and linebred on the dogs that it produced, did my dogs achieve World Class Ability.

    As with poker, in the genetic game of cards sometimes an unexpected "wildcard" is what it takes to win you the money

    Cheers,

    Jack

  3. #3
    ? on Smith & Williams' Reuben ROM.....his father and mother are both Cox....Is that George Cox......

  4. #4
    Good question, I am not sure.

  5. #5
    [IMG][/IMG]Now that I've gone back and took a closer look at this litter's pedigree, it's not so bad after all. I like the way Ch Blonka dame's pedigree is put together and her sire is not so bad either.

  6. #6
    No, Bob Cox, as in Peeks & Cox' CH Sluggo. Bob Cox is also the man from whom Bobby and Skeet originally purchased CH Bad Billy.

  7. #7
    I told you folks that Gentleman's Choice was involved with both the S&W dogs and breeding to CH Hammer simultaneously. The following pedigree is a result of him blending those 2 families of dogs which are in fact one. In essence, when you consider the true breeding behind CH Hammer, this is a 3/8ths Reuben bred dog. Also, be sure to click on the pedigree of the sire Bumper for a nice black and white photo. This exhibits the head shape and body type that was typical of these dogs without the CH Bad Billy blood infused.

    http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...hp?dog_id=7618

  8. #8
    CH Tuko was a classic CH Bad Billy-Reuben dog. Many, many of the dogs from he family had this look minus the ear crop.
    http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...hp?dog_id=7623

  9. #9
    Excellent read! Many thanks to both Jack and TFX for taking the time to write all this out.
    Common sense isn't so common these days.

  10. #10
    Here is a dog Kloos and I bred from the family in 1991, these were 50% Reuben dogs. Sometimes the traits took after the Heinzl blood in the pedigree, thus the brindle of CH Fox and this deadgame son of his Mad Sam. This principle is something I continue to emphasize over and over. Some of the straightest dogs that carry an ancestor's traits may have relatively little of the blood, and dogs with deep breeding on a certain dog may not have many of the traits whatsoever.
    http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...hp?dog_id=2562

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