Were them pure Boyles dogs..

[Officially Retired]

Truly an impeccable correspondence, among true educated "GENTLEMEN". I hope to find this standard of class among more individuals located here on this forum. If so, I may have found a home. I thank you Jack.
Here is my contribution, though not a pure Boyles dog, they are what I hope to be called the truth and the future. I thank you gentlemen for such an excellent and intriguing read and may the lord continue to bless you all with your continued success and contributions.
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pu ... _id=371014
Very respectfully,
SHOWBOX

You're welcome, and I agree the participation and input from all was conducted as the way it should be, with respect, even though people had different opinions. In the end, Stone City clarified the biggest truth, which is all major lines have won/lost to other major lines, and so the key always boils down to careful selection as you proceed forward with your chosen line. In fine, proper breeding selection can create Champions with any good line, and improper breeding selection can create garbage with any otherwise good line.

I will say this, though: that statement was made that we don't have "all the true stats" on all of these different bloodlines to rate them against one another, but I would like to add that you absolutely SHOULD keep stats on your own bloodline. I can promise you, for example, that I absolutely know which are the best ways to go within my own line, by keeping careful track of the only percentages I can really know for sure, which are my own.

The man who pays attention to this can make a success of any reasonably-strong bloodline, while the man who does not can make a mess out of any reasonably-strong bloodline, and I have seen both happen plenty of times

Cheers,

Jack

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http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_ id=297015
She didn't bite as hard as her dam, but she could still lay ivory with the best of them. Nonetheless, she was the best I've owned, and every dog thereafter has been held to a higher standard because of how she did her thing. Extremely smart, a screamer in the corner, and just an absolute wonder to watch in action! There were some who doubted her ability, but very few who stepped up to the plate with their charge. She won her last against the CH. FOAMIE bitch in full-blow heat! I suspect thats why it took her so long to do away with the game little FOAMIE bitch. I still miss her dearly, and just thought I'd show her off again, for those who haven't heard of "The Queen Bitch Of The South"; arguably one of the best 32lbers ever! She sure did it in true bulldog fashion. Her records speaks for itself, although, there were 2 champions that turned us down (who I won't reveal), and 2 forfeits paid (from a 2xw & 1xw). Boyles' DIRTY MARY & Bell's BABY JONES at it's best!
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/mo ... _id=405311
CUTIE PIE is the "gate-keeper" to the future of our program; one of the meanest little bitches you ever want to see, who lacks nothing! Mouth, Intensity, Drive, Finish, & Style. One of only 3 surviving pups out of her litter, and both her sire & dam are now dead. She gives a new meaning to "Big" things come in "Small" packages... Boyles blood, with a good portion of ELI, and a touch of RED BOY; can't get no closer to perfection IMO!
Swamp

Superb dogs and record with them, Swamp, I can see why you're proud 8-)

Bravo!

Jack

[SwampDweller]

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_ id=297015
She didn't bite as hard as her dam, but she could still lay ivory with the best of them. Nonetheless, she was the best I've owned, and every dog thereafter has been held to a higher standard because of how she did her thing. Extremely smart, a screamer in the corner, and just an absolute wonder to watch in action! There were some who doubted her ability, but very few who stepped up to the plate with their charge. She won her last against the CH. FOAMIE bitch in full-blow heat! I suspect thats why it took her so long to do away with the game little FOAMIE bitch. I still miss her dearly, and just thought I'd show her off again, for those who haven't heard of "The Queen Bitch Of The South"; arguably one of the best 32lbers ever! She sure did it in true bulldog fashion. Her records speaks for itself, although, there were 2 champions that turned us down (who I won't reveal), and 2 forfeits paid (from a 2xw & 1xw). Boyles' DIRTY MARY & Bell's BABY JONES at it's best!
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/mo ... _id=405311
CUTIE PIE is the "gate-keeper" to the future of our program; one of the meanest little bitches you ever want to see, who lacks nothing! Mouth, Intensity, Drive, Finish, & Style. One of only 3 surviving pups out of her litter, and both her sire & dam are now dead. She gives a new meaning to "Big" things come in "Small" packages... Boyles blood, with a good portion of ELI, and a touch of RED BOY; can't get no closer to perfection IMO!
Swamp

Superb dogs and record with them, Swamp, I can see why you're proud 8-)

Bravo!

Jack

Thanks Jack! And your right, I am definietly proud of the family of dogs we have. And I'm sure, as each generation passes, my admiration for them will increase, greatly!

[TFX]

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_ id=297015
Boyles' DIRTY MARY & Bell's BABY JONES at it's best!
Swamp

I started out with the Redneck TJ blood that is behind Baby Jones. Those were extremely game dogs on average.

[floridaboy]

i have this male http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pu ... _id=373869

[SwampDweller]

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_ id=297015
Boyles' DIRTY MARY & Bell's BABY JONES at it's best!
Swamp

I started out with the Redneck TJ blood that is behind Baby Jones. Those were extremely game dogs on average.

Winn's RED NECK (a.k.a. TJ) definitely put out some game dogs, and those dogs were able to pass that trait on to their propective offspring; and so on and so forth. Bell's BABY JONES did the same, and its his influence in my dogs that I value the most.

[BulldogConnection]

We like the Baby Jones blood coming through Flash alot.

[TFX]

Winn's RED NECK (a.k.a. TJ) definitely put out some game dogs, and those dogs were able to pass that trait on to their propective offspring; and so on and so forth. Bell's BABY JONES did the same, and its his influence in my dogs that I value the most.

My first mentor in the dogs was Carl Winn's long time partner (that owned CH Little Boots ROM), so I know a little something about the old TJ blood. When LB got the TJ dog he did some very nice matings with him. I would venture to say that with kind of stuff behind your dogs they are bound to be much gamer than the standard old CH Reno- CH Mr. Rogers-Ch Comanche type of Boyles blood that was so very disappointing out here.

[drz]

Some great Boyles type dogs being presented this thread.

[SwampDweller]

Winn's RED NECK (a.k.a. TJ) definitely put out some game dogs, and those dogs were able to pass that trait on to their propective offspring; and so on and so forth. Bell's BABY JONES did the same, and its his influence in my dogs that I value the most.

My first mentor in the dogs was Carl Winn's long time partner (that owned CH Little Boots ROM), so I know a little something about the old TJ blood. When LB got the TJ dog he did some very nice matings with him. I would venture to say that with kind of stuff behind your dogs they are bound to be much gamer than the standard old CH Reno- CH Mr. Rogers-Ch Comanche type of Boyles blood that was so very disappointing out here.

Yes, thats the mix; Boyles' DIRTY MARY / Bell's BABY JONES. I love them; and they do have a lot more "bottom" than the average Boyles bred dogs, without losing the destructive crunch! I love the dogs down from CH. PANDI, who was a daughter of 2xw SHEBA (daughter of BABY JONES). And especially love the dogs from 2xw GOTTI, who was off REAPER (SHEBA's litter-mate sister; 4xw CH. BLACK GIRL & 3xw CH. BROWNIE was also in that same litter). I love the dogs down from GR.CH. FLASH equally, but I don't have any of it; still searching out the best way to include it within my program, as well as the best dog down from him available to me. Selective Breeding, True Vision, and a Keen Eye for a Bulldog; using that mindset, one can improve on any bloodline, no matter how good or great they may already be!

Hey TFX, you remember the old TUG BOAT dog? I'm more than sure you do.... One of the gamest to look through a collar!

Take Care & Be Safe,

Swamp