Conditioning a dog UP TO WEIGHT??

[TopShelfKennels]

Im actually in the process of conditioning up to weight right now, it's a pain in the ass honestly. I still think we are gonna pull out the W, but I do prefer working down to weight over up in weight.

[OGDOGG]

Im actually in the process of conditioning up to weight right now, it's a pain in the ass honestly. I still think we are gonna pull out the W, but I do prefer working down to weight over up in weight.

I guess we are in the same boat 100%. I am also doing the same thing right now.

[OGDOGG]

5 days out. Started her at 35 half she's right on weight at 37
Screaming IcePick(Screaming Icon/Ch IcePick) bitch

[skipper]

Looks good. Good luck!

[Nash]

Good lookin bitch OGDOGG.

[Officially Retired]

5 days out. Started her at 35 half she's right on weight at 37
Screaming IcePick(Screaming Icon/Ch IcePick) bitch

She is a very pretty bitch, beautiful, but to be perfectly honest she looks a little dry/flat/listless to me.

It is hard to tell from a photo though, and the lighting is bad, so maybe she is just real mellow.
The reason I say this is because she's not even at the full end of her chain.
I can't think of too many dogs I have photographed that aren't fully at the end of their chain, leaning into it.
She is supposedly in top form, and yet isn't even enthusiastic enough to get to the full-end of her chain.

Also, shame on you for using a cheap bullsnap and not a swivel; that is how dogs die in kennel wrecks

Not trying to be over-critical, but you posted a photo as an example of bringing a dog under, and then back up, and to be perfectly honest your bitch is just "standing there" and it looks like she has no pizzazz to her whatsoever, which is what I would expect from that style of conditioning: a flat dog.

Just being perfectly honest with you sir.

Jack

[bolero]

She is a very pretty bitch, beautiful, but to be perfectly honest she looks a little dry/flat/listless to me.

It is hard to tell from a photo though, and the lighting is bad, so maybe she is just real mellow.
The reason I say this is because she's not even at the full end of her chain.
I can't think of too many dogs I have photographed that aren't fully at the end of their chain, leaning into it.
She is supposedly in top form, and yet isn't even enthusiastic enough to get to the full-end of her chain.

Also, shame on you for using a cheap bullsnap and not a swivel; that is how dogs die in kennel wrecks

Not trying to be over-critical, but you posted a photo as an example of bringing a dog under, and then back up, and to be perfectly honest your bitch is just "standing there" and it looks like she has no pizzazz to her whatsoever, which is what I would expect from that style of conditioning: a flat dog.

Just being perfectly honest with you sir.

Jack

i dont beleive the way a dog stands means all that much and sometimes a dog all tense at the end of a chain makes them look more muscular then they actually are some dogs are calm one i got right now never hits the end of his chain unless a dog is there or i am coming to work him or brim him insidfe he is calm ad doesnt care to much to move on his chain other than to lay down and roll around

[Officially Retired]

i personally beleive that there is nothing wrong with the cornflakes and also they were used as the cheapest most easily digestable form of carbs, which they are, but bill also used fats such as flaw oil and coconut oil and knew that fats not carbs are what animals use for energs but those carbs are used in the first fifteen minutes of the work out then the fats kick in and i still beleive carbs are needed just in low percentages not high like humans need. u also have to understand that bill was putting a keep out there that was cheap and successful and he knew that cornflakes were not the best thing out there for carbs but the cheapest.

I think Bill did the best he could with the knowledge that was available at the time, but today it is pretty much unanimous that cornflakes are NOT "best practice" for a canine endurance fuel.

I am sure he knew cornflakes were not "the best" at the time also, but he still was under the impression that carbs were the primary fuel source for dogs ... when now it is known they are hardly needed at all (animal fats/oils are preferred) ... but no person can be blamed for using the available data of their time.

you also must understand like jack said about the old man bill lnew two things no keep is good without the right weight and the right dog

True enough! I think getting the weight right is the hardest thing to learn how to do ... it certainly used to be a stumbling block for me.

i dont beleive the way a dog stands means all that much and sometimes a dog all tense at the end of a chain makes them look more muscular then they actually are some dogs are calm one i got right now never hits the end of his chain unless a dog is there or i am coming to work him or brim him insidfe he is calm ad doesnt care to much to move on his chain other than to lay down and roll around

True enough.

That said, a person (who only has a photo to look at) can only go by the impressions gained by that photo. I think we can all agree that a photo certainly doesn't offer as much information as actually being there to see the dog move around.

Hell, I have taken two photos of the same dog, during the same shoot, where one photo makes the dog look like a million dollars ... while the other photo makes him look like a POS. (I am sure we all have done this.)

So if OGDogg says his bitch was in top form, then I would go by that over any photo.

Jack

[TopShelfKennels]

Looks good OGDOGG, good luck to ya.

[OGDOGG]

Thanks skipper,Nash, and Top shelf. "She is a very pretty bitch, beautiful, but to be perfectly honest she looks a little dry/flat/listless to me" Thanks; shes a good looking and well structured animal but she is not dry. I would never bring my dogs in dry. Her skin count is half a second. But yes she does look exhausted due to us just got done walking for 3 hours(12 mile walk)then had her on what i call a quicky(cable run) area for my dogs to empty. "It is hard to tell from a photo though, and the lighting is bad, so maybe she is just real mellow" yes she is a very mellow dog some what timid at times when I raise my voice but a beast in the box. Her sister
http://i.imgur.com/1Wii1.jpg is the opposite, outgoing and very vocal and intense."Also, shame on you for using a cheap bullsnap and not a swivel; that is how dogs die in kennel wrecks" That is a quicky as I call it. She is my house dog and stays inside of the house. My outside dogs have set ups like the ones from your book(where I got it from)"Not trying to be over-critical, but you posted a photo as an example of bringing a dog under, and then back up, and to be perfectly honest your bitch is just "standing there" and it looks like she has no pizzazz to her whatsoever, which is what I would expect from that style of conditioning: a flat dog." I don't mind being criticize cause it'll only make me better. Yes she does look a little drained out but 4 days of rest will make her feel a lot better.