Should Showing EXTREME GAMENESS be Part of DOY Candidacy?

[ragedog10]

Well, originally, my thought was ... "is ability all there is to greatness?"

Is beating 3 mediocre Champions, where you're never really behind, a "greater accomplishment" than beating ONE devastating Champion, suffering incredible punishment, taking it all, and coming from WAY BACK to win on a huge HEART + Ability?

Beating 3 Champions can mean a dog only has great ability, but yet never had to show HEART.

Doesn't true greatness imply HEART also?

Isn't the display of awesome heart the distinction between a front-runner and a legend?

Maybe the idea of a second title, for gameness, is the best way to go ... but my original thought was, "Okay X dog may not have won 6x, but he did display a level of gameness that the 6xW Y never showed ..."

Is true greatness only about # of wins?

Jack

True greatness could be a dog who won one show but showed gameness in coming back and beating a bad ass dog. Beating mediocre dogs mean nothing to be honest, I guess it comes down to who and what a said dog accomplishments.

[Officially Retired]

True greatness should encompass all of the accolades we are speaking of here.

That is why it is my opinion a DOY should be the cream of the crop.

The "Gamest" dog of the year only needs his/her gameness to be a consideration.

A truly great thought provoking topic as usual Jack!

S_B

True greatness could be a dog who won one show but showed gameness in coming back and beating a bad ass dog. Beating mediocre dogs mean nothing to be honest, I guess it comes down to who and what a said dog accomplishments.

There is something sorely lacking in a system that doesn't recognize the SPIRIT in these dogs.

The title DOY implies "Greatness" ... and part of greatness is ability/quality of opposition, etc., ... but part of greatness is ALSO unbelievable heart.

Sure, a game plug might get GIS, and we can admire his spirit, but he isn't really a great dog. I understand that.

However, some dogs *are* high ability animals, that also show incredible heart, and overcome incredible adversity, to win over some incredible opponents.

This begs the question, would every Grand Champion take its death .. or be able to overcome the same abuse?

Maybe Dog X can't win 6, and Dog Y can ... but yet Dog X did show incredible heart ... whereas Dog Y has not.

I guess I am just thinking out loud

[ragedog10]

Titere was in a cast before #5 , he over came a lot heart worms and such.

[ragedog10]

Texas just lost to CH.Reno and Lotto lost to Titere on Titere 6th so yes 2014. My take is let's do it separate DOY is about performance we all should know if our dogs are game before showing, we are banking on ability,mouth and such when it comes to the show. now if it goes deep we all want to win on gameness.

[S_B]

True greatness should encompass all of the accolades we are speaking of here.

That is why it is my opinion a DOY should be the cream of the crop.

The "Gamest" dog of the year only needs his/her gameness to be a consideration.

A truly great thought provoking topic as usual Jack!

S_B

[ragedog10]

I hear you and understand what you mean! Most 6xw won't show game most aren't breeding game dogs that's why most shows are over in before 45. I prefer a game dog, one of the gamest I ever seen Showtime's CH.Roscoe. came from way behind to beat a monster he was the definition of Gameness

[Officially Retired]

I hear you and understand what you mean! Most 6xw won't show game most aren't breeding game dogs that's why most shows are over in before 45. I prefer a game dog, one of the gamest I ever seen Showtime's CH.Roscoe. came from way behind to beat a monster he was the definition of Gameness

Who did he beat?

[ragedog10]

On his last he beat 315 Boys Burner who was a monster I'll have to think back this was a few years back.

[Black Hand]

I voted No. It certainly could add to a dogs resume to have to show his heart but is not necessary.
We should not fault a dog for being superior to his opponent.

[BULLDOG ANONYMOUS]

How could anyone Vote against a "True Game Dog" as "D.O.Y"?? Animal's such as BlackRocks' "NAZI", Not only should been a D.O.Y in his era. He's a dog of a "LIFETIME"! I.M.O ...G.I.S and lose,, im not going to vote...but, but the a dog who go past the boundaries of there ability, and pull out a win should NOT be ignored.