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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by CYJ View Post
    Bently, this dog is badly deformed in the front end, for what ever reasons. That dog can not take any serious work. My brother many years back had a little black/white bitch bred off Tramp Red Boy x W. Martin's lady.

    This bitch was well built and could mop up the floor with anything her size. When trying to work her in a pre keep. She showed to have a bad joint in her back leg or what is called a gimp leg. Was of no avail what ever we tried, the defect was inherited. We did not breed her but used her for a roll dog.

    I would not breed this dog since he may pass this defect into the puppies. Use him as a roll dog, but doubt it can be properly conditioned.

    Fellows no matter how we feel or disagree. If everyone is going to start using vulgar and profane language to express one's self to each other. Why bother to leave on lines pedigree site? There one can talk common as they like to each other and even post any sort of Porno they like and even harassment type attacks. I was hoping this site would stay civil no matter how one may feel.

    Standard's of a good dog man is not always how many dogs one shows or wins or loses. Some do better at the breeding aspect while others do better at the showing aspect. Not many can do it all and keep down a full time job. Cheers
    the dog in the pic is not the deformed one. that is a female i posted because jack complained about her setup being so bad. She is not deformed its just the way the pic was taken, this bitch in the pic is gunpowder, she is very athletic and strong, no problems with her, although its her littermate brother who is deformed. i will post a pic

    and man i am usually cool on this board, i dont crtitize no one or there dogs, because you u never know another mans situation.on this flip side, jack always has this urge to crtitise someone or something if it isnt the way he does it or wants it to be. I mean how dare you critisize me as a dog man and my dogs. I mean lets all rememeber where we all came from "JACK".

    With all due respect he is very smart and always can provide help in just about any situation but why always critisize someone because it isnt the way you want it to be. Worry bout your own hounds not others, i mean i can care less about the other mans dogs, long as i know my dogs are ok. I apologize for the bad charecter but he really pissed me off that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bently View Post
    and man i am usually cool on this board, i dont crtitize no one or there dogs, because you u never know another mans situation.on this flip side, jack always has this urge to crtitise someone or something if it isnt the way he does it or wants it to be. I mean how dare you critisize me as a dog man and my dogs. I mean lets all rememeber where we all came from "JACK".
    I try to be cool too.

    The trouble is when people do/say shit that is so obviously crazy, dumb, that there has to be something more than a mere "discussion" ... there has to be a boot in the ass along with it.

    You've got a fucked up dog. Who couldn't make it to his first birthday without being in a kennel wreck. Who can't walk around the block without falling over.

    And, you're asking about "working him" (to match, by all you've said) before he can even walk a straight line and not need to "lie down."

    And then you talk about your "high standards" ...

    If you can't see THE IRONY of it all, then you're as BLIND to reality as you are DEAF as to what was clearly stated in that video.

    If you posted this in the Canine Health forums, seeking therapy for your dogs' well being it would probably have been better received.

    That said, I could have been more respectful myself ... even though reading stuff like that makes no sense to me.



    Quote Originally Posted by bently View Post
    With all due respect he is very smart and always can provide help in just about any situation but why always critisize someone because it isnt the way you want it to be.
    Yes, I am very smart and helpful in just about any situation, true. I make mistakes and say things perhaps I shouldn't also.

    But as far as criticism goes, I don't always criticize people. Believe this or not, sometimes I tip my hat to people ... people who actually do things intelligently and correctly

    So don't put completely stupid shit up here and expect a buncha "atta-boys!", because it won't happen.



    Quote Originally Posted by bently View Post
    Worry bout your own hounds not others, i mean i can care less about the other mans dogs, long as i know my dogs are ok. I apologize for the bad charecter but he really pissed me off that time.
    I will worry about whatever gets posted here, which is MY world ... a bulldog world designed to exchange GOOD advice/practices habits, not shitty ones.

    And I too apologize for my own lack of character and self-restraint, because reading stupid shit really pisses me off too, but I shouldn't let it get to me and should learn how to discuss things more civilly.

    So credit to CYJ for being a voice of reason ...

    Jack

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by CYJ View Post
    Bently, this dog is badly deformed in the front end, for what ever reasons. That dog can not take any serious work. My brother many years back had a little black/white bitch bred off Tramp Red Boy x W. Martin's lady.

    This bitch was well built and could mop up the floor with anything her size. When trying to work her in a pre keep. She showed to have a bad joint in her back leg or what is called a gimp leg. Was of no avail what ever we tried, the defect was inherited. We did not breed her but used her for a roll dog.

    I would not breed this dog since he may pass this defect into the puppies. Use him as a roll dog, but doubt it can be properly conditioned.

    Fellows no matter how we feel or disagree. If everyone is going to start using vulgar and profane language to express one's self to each other. Why bother to leave on lines pedigree site? There one can talk common as they like to each other and even post any sort of Porno they like and even harassment type attacks. I was hoping this site would stay civil no matter how one may feel.

    Standard's of a good dog man is not always how many dogs one shows or wins or loses. Some do better at the breeding aspect while others do better at the showing aspect. Not many can do it all and keep down a full time job. Cheers
    Very well said CYJ. Good post.
    Common sense isn't so common these days.

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    after a 20 min walk his body just completely goes out and he needs to lay down fror a while to recover.....to many problems with this hound, the only reason i am keeping him and holding on to him until he is adult because of the way he bred and is worth a lot of money,

    dude i ***** dogs with the prettiest peds if theres something i dont like. fuck money. he has to lay down and recover after 20 min of walk? sorry this sounds like a joke to me

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    Very good post CYJ. Bently post a pic of the pup you keep saying you will, either cull the pup or keep it as a pet theres a defect plain and simple bro. Yis Ole Man

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    His feet are eastie westie and the shoulder looks like it was maybe broke as a young pup. if the dog is having trouble now i can only assume it will get much worse and more painful as he ages. Just my two cents but make the right choice for the dog. Ole Man

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    My advice, put on a thick coat. Take the goods and discard the bads.

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by CA Jack View Post
    I am surprised by your attitude and tone ...

    But I will say it again, if you retards would actually LISTEN to the video, it directly states that was a TEMPORARY SET UP ... that Poncho was a HOUSE DOG at the time ... and he was DYING OF CANCER.

    I am not going to put up with outright lies, like that is how I kept my dogs.





    What are you talking about? Why don't you give away yours?
    Can't believe I need to explain this, but here goes. Read it s.l.o.w.l.y Jack so you don't get the wrong end of the stick ... again!

    The 51 second video Bently posted cuts off before you can be heard saying it is a temporary chain spot for Poncho. That's why I posted the video and said skip to 9.22 where you can be heard (clear as day) saying it's only a temporary chain spot.

    Ok? We friends again?

    In regards to the Silverback dogs; that was a question to Bently as he stated he knew someone who was giving some away ... I wouldn't part with mine.

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