There is an old saying that holds true ,never bet the farm on any of them .
There is an old saying that holds true ,never bet the farm on any of them .
I agree with Frosty as well. I do not know of the Lil Dick dog but would have to think there are lots out there like him and owners as well. One of the theories is the gas tank, they all get one, and some have better gas mileage than others. Some are sent to the well one too many times. Lil Dick was born to be CH. Lil Dick and for a time he was everything Ch. lil Dick was suppose to be, but in the end he was asked for more than he could deliver. If I had seen Lil Dick go, knew several of his littermates, parents, aunts and uncles go as well, and happy with what I saw, I would be the guy that bred to the "cur" Lil Dick.
There are so many variables in these dogs coupled with so many opinions on what defines a good dog that it is nearly impossible to all agree on any certain aspect within the dogs. I saw a dog go for his CH several years ago. He won. At the end it was not impressive to me at all. I was not a fan of the newly crowned CH. Then they told me he was 7, had been sold to them as a 2XW, no teeth, performance career over with, stud dog. They 'had' to check him out at 6 and they liked him enough to think 'CH' added to his value. To see what he did at 7, knowing the details, I was impressed with him as a dog, but his skills were eroded. At 8 he quit to a much younger dog. Poor decisions led to his demise. What he was never changed, but he was not allowed to become an old stud dog like he should have. EWO
Anyone can have too much of a good thing.
Example: you may love ice cream, but if you're forced to eat a gallon of it every night, over and over again, there will quickly come a time where you won't want to look at another jug of ice cream again ...
That is called getting burned out!
Agreed. That is where opinions and definitions and variables make things difficult. As a young 23 year old that dog straight up quit. It was all on him. 30 years later I am thinking the cur tag was forced upon him by 'burning' him out. We space out the matches, maybe give him an easy bump here and there to allow him to enjoy it and maybe he does not cur on that particular night. Maybe it would have been number four, or maybe never at all. Who knows? EWO
Originally Posted by waccamaw
I think some dogs are just "front-running curs" ... they look great when things are easy but don't really want to go through a struggle.
On the other hand, I think some dogs really do get their dicks knocked in the dirt, and they really do have to go through HELL to pull off a win. A dog can only go through pure, physical hell so many times before he can no longer physically (or mentally) take that kind of stress anymore. And an owner has to have the sense to recognize this fact.
A dog that wins three blowouts in :28-:40 min has no business quitting on #4. A dog that always has to get the living shit knocked out of him for an hour, then mount a comeback from hell, to pull out a herculean effort and run staggering scratches way deep into the time-zone to pull out his victory, has no business being matched again.
And somewhere between these two extremes we as dogmen have to be able to read the dogs ... and correctly-assess what we're looking at ... so we can understand when to blame the dog for being a POS ... and when to blame ourselves for taking a proven warrior to the well once too many times ...
Jack
Very well said. This is a 'cut-n-paster' for later threads. EWO
that ca.jack is a very well put together post, also some very interesting replies from dog men.
Very nice topic and great input from all.
Thanks & good to see you here, Old Timer
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