Why the Jenny?

[CRISIS]

Totally disagree. A flirtpole provides major cardio if you're doing it right. 5 minutes is not doing it right.

Your right, it will gas the hell out of them.... But there are better cardio routines IMO, unless FP is the only thing that works than sure....i just believe its main benefits is the stop & go, & coordination it helps......maybe i was unfair about saying minimal cardio.......

5 minutes IS doing it right when your breakin in a pup to it! Keep it fun, keep it short..........it isnt like folks work pups like theyre in keep...just teaching em the tools of theyre trade & keep em wanting it.

[CRISIS]

I do a Lot of flirt work, i just incorprrate other things.....everything serves its purpose though....

[EWO]

True, it is not the end all be all of cardio but it is a great tool. The best conditioning scenarios is when one has a lot of tools in the shed. Flirt poling is just one. EWO

[Officially Retired]

Your right, it will gas the hell out of them.... But there are better cardio routines IMO, unless FP is the only thing that works than sure....i just believe its main benefits is the stop & go, & coordination it helps......maybe i was unfair about saying minimal cardio.......
5 minutes IS doing it right when your breakin in a pup to it! Keep it fun, keep it short..........it isnt like folks work pups like theyre in keep...just teaching em the tools of theyre trade & keep em wanting it.

I guess everyone's technique is different, but dogs will gas out quick on a flirt pole ... and the side-to-side muscle-conditioning adds benefits that straight running can't duplicate IMO.

Jack

[EWO]

I agree the side to side movement/changing of direction can't be duplicated on a mill of any sorts or road work. I personally like to think about the dog in the midst of competing. I try to factor in all the things he is doing as well as how he does them. I try to duplicate or mimic those movements in his work. The flirt pole accomplishes a lot of these. These dogs do not move from hold to hold at a snail's pace and the target is usually moving. You gotta get their quick. That movement is sometimes side to side, but a lot of times it is in a contorted manner. Body twisted in a certain way across the abdomen or along the spine. From these contorted positions they explode from spot to spot. If these muscles, in these positions and at these angles, are not worked and prepared then when they are used on show night those muscles will tire and leave him early. The flirt pole adds to cardio and targeting but it also adds to muscular endurance that a mill or a walk can't. EWO

[CRISIS]

I guess everyone's technique is different, but dogs will gas out quick on a flirt pole ... and the side-to-side muscle-conditioning adds benefits that straight running can't duplicate IMO.

Jack

Tushay!

[CYJ]

In my part of the country. We have had nothing but rain about every two too three days for the last two months or so. Had great crops in the fields, but the excessive rain has damaged about 40 percent of all the rotation crops.

Unless one had a really large farm type building or barn to put a smaller version Jenny in. If one had a dog to show in any of these summer months, would not get much use out of a out side Jenny. Even when the rain quits for awhile, still takes so many sunny days for the track to dry up. A jenny is a great working tool long as the weather is good.

I might add, try working a dog on a Jenny or Road Work in the freezing cold with a wind blowing. You and the dog will not be out there very long. One cannot do Road Work in the Rain either. I know, been there done that.

Why it is wise to have a big enough building for a large round table and room enough for a slat mill and E-mill. You can not depend on just a Jenny, like any good boy scout, have to be prepared for all those little foxes that spoil the grape vine. Cheers

[CYJ]

If I was getting into the dog game today. I would buy the latest up dated books written by dog men like Faron , Robert Lemm, and California Jack's books. Sure there are other books, I do not know about that are highly recommended. Even in Don Mayfield's keep where he mentions those two tid bits of info. from Saddler and Tudor are good to know.

I leaned how too better build and use a round table from Mr. Teal's advise and a article written by Saddler or Fitzwater in a older 1940's or 50's Blood lines magazine I had.

With the great improvements today on slat mills and new diet ideas. I feel all one would need is a top quality Slat Mill, a E-Mill and enough land to hand walk the dog. The other out side option is a good flirt pole and weight pulling area if one wishes to do that. This would at least help keep you out of the eyes of the John Q public who are well informed about our dogs today.

I would advise one too only have the one dog to be worked on their property period. After dog pulling show send dog some where else for rest and recovery. Have a hunting license and dog showing credentials.

You have a trust worthy Wife, Child etc. Put all your property and things of great value in their names. They should not be attending dog pulling shows. Just keep your living rights.

Do not enter a multi dog pulling show. I would not be caught ten miles near one today. Do only a one dog pulling show with a small limited # of dog pulling participates. Stay out of the magazines with any info. on self. The Self Glory days are over my friends. Pride goeth before Destruction. LOL

If the law or humane society gives you a hassle. They are only going to get hopefully, a empty care package. You have the right to a state appointed lawyer if your income is not to high. Lawyers and Judges only want your money, property and play politics to feather their hats.

Getting back on subject. S. McNeil before he went south on us all. Was a good dog man that had his dog's in very good pulling shape. He got info. help from V. Jackson and Irish Jerry. He used a well built Slat Mill and a E- Mill along with road work and hand walking when the weather was good.

A proper made round table can also be put inside to simulate road work when the weather is bad. For those who do not want too or can not do road work or build big Jenny mills. These other methods will get the job done and keep you out of the bad weather and prying eyes. Cheers

[EWO]

All pretty good advice. EWO

[Officially Retired]

I agree, all pretty good advice ... however ... not every day is a rainy day ... so (if I were active) I would NOT be building my conditioning platform around "rainy days" ... but rather would just be prepared for them

In other words, because I feel the jenny is best, I would be using that every day I could, and would only switch to the mill on days I had to ... rather than only use the mill because "it might rain" someday. The weightpull harness and flirtpole also comprise my preferred keep. I personally would only use the mill on days I had to.

Don't get me wrong: I have a full mill keep too, that is pretty good, but I don't think it is as good as the main keep I have ... which has no millwork at all ... but plenty of jenny/pull/flirtpole work.

Jack