I would say the drama " A dangerous dog" makes for great T,V! Thats why every person on here can say,yes or no to the question!Originally Posted by Macker
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I would say the drama " A dangerous dog" makes for great T,V! Thats why every person on here can say,yes or no to the question!
Then you and I are the only two who have voted for him. I think he does have a way with dogs, but I think the people who "need him" do not.
Therefore, I too think a large percentage of the dogs he "fixes" (on TV) go right back to doing whatever it is they did without "him" being there.
And that is the fear with a dog like Kitana. There are just some dogs that you don't leave alone with kids.
My Missy bitch (Poncho's sister), I guarantee, would give Kitana all she could ever hope to handle, and then some (if they were the same weight) ... but the difference is there was not a drop of malice in Missy. She was simply a sweet dog BY NATURE. You could put babies next to her, children, puppies, she was as sweet as sweet could be ...
But as soon as you stepped over a piece of plywood and faced her toward another adult female, she was bad to the bone and game to the core.
You can't "train" GAME into a dog ... nor can you "train" a BAD NATURE out of a dog ...
Some dogs, like some people, simply are not nice by nature.
They'll get you if they see the opportunity. That is their nature.
Jack
This is how i see it. There is dogs, and then there is gamedogs. You can't even compare the two. Sure gamedogs are also dogs, but there is a big difference. We are constantly fighting nature with these dogs. Soon as we stop selecting and breeding for the traits we look for nature turns them into regular dogs. Just like the amstaff are today. I'm sure Ceasar is great with dogs. But he don't even know what a gamedog is.
That is a wild story about Kitana, big powerful bitch like that could sure mess up someone's day!
I have a bitch like that to, she doesn't discriminate everything other than us might as well be another bulldog, including any object she isn't used to seeing regularly.
When the litter of her was born I had to start weaning and separating around 4 weeks. One bitch pup would attack her mother when she was brought back in the pen to feed them. That bitch would get so worked up she couldn't breathe, she actually passed at 6 weeks old after an episode.
Anyway, as this bitch matured and hit 2 years old we moved, a buddy was helping move dogs. He got her off her chain and placed her in a kennel. When we returned for her she wouldn't let him in that kennel, she had fire in her eyes and was ramming the kennel with her muzzle to get at him.
She has never let anyone else near her since that day. I tried ol Cesar's techniques on her, but walking down the road proved to be a challenge, as she sees passing vehicles as bulldogs as well!
I'd bet the farm that man couldn't shush this bitch into submission!
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I think he is good with dogs. Most of the things he does work, but they are 'briefed' to fit into a 30 minute slot. I also believe anything that goes wrong gets a "Cut, take Two" just as Jack said.
Remember on TV we are solving lifelong mysteries in 30 minutes as well. It is TV.
As far as man dogs and man biters we had Fila Brasileiros for a number of years. When they are correct they are the sweetest, 100LB plus lap dogs but to a stranger they are a hell unleashed. They have been turned into a show dog over the years and a lot of that correctness has been lost, but replaced with a defensive driven territorial, front mouth biting fear biter. Sad demise for such a noble creature.
With that said, and a little off topic, at a bite work session I put on a bite suit and took hits from different breeds. The first was a 80lb. Malinois. He hit hard with a lot of speed and the bite felt hard. The next was a Fila. The intensity was incredible, the bite was hard, but the dog used his weight (140lbs) to pull a person in for a re-bite. Then a 40lb. pit bull. The speed over 15 yards was impressive and the bite was phenomenal. The next was with a 90lb. American Bulldog. The speed was close to the pitbull, the bite was close and the impact knocked me off my feet.
Back to the topic, three of the dogs were trained. It was a game. They went from killers to sp
to spastic puppies for a tennis ball. Three of these dogs were trained from puppyhood to adult hood to be this way. They are driven and this drive can be re-directed (which Caesar is really good at). The Fila has a natural bad disposition to strangers and it can be hidden with training and socialization but it can't be removed. The Dog Whisperer show makes one believe all the dogs can be fixed and this is simply not true.
I think he is a good trainer. I enjoy the show. EWO
This Video makes Cesar look like an idiot, IMO.
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That Ninja Jedi stance is the greatest pose I ever seen on video.
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