Nice, i heard this one was one of those exceptions. Built like a tank and still agile and good natural air.Originally Posted by Stoneline
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Nice, i heard this one was one of those exceptions. Built like a tank and still agile and good natural air.
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toronado back end taller than fronnt end. Barracuda was the same. 10 wins and 9 wins maybe on to somethin. Machobear has the same shape. backend a bit taller.
toronado back end taller than fronnt end. Barracuda was the same. 10 wins and 9 wins maybe on to somethin. Machobear has the same shape. backend a bit taller.
Downtown's Puma dog is one of the very few dogs out there that have the 1996,2002,2003, and 2004 SDJ DOY winners under one roof. And boy oh boy can he finish. He has a perfect build as well, Its gonna take something special to outpull him. :
Ditto Stoneline. Nice to see you liked the Jr dog. Jr looked a lot like his grand or great grand sire Young's Chuck. Chuck was the same color and size. My Chuck dog had good straight front legs and not quite as heavy shouldered and fiddle footed.
That was a throw back off my Young's Monkey bitch. Monkey like some of that Eli stuff. Was real heavy shouldered up in the front, long body, was fiddle footed, and a heavy boned dog. I started not to use her for breeding for that reason. But I really tested the hell out of her due to that. I called her Monkey because she could figure out a way to climb out of a dog pen and then wreck havoc on the closest dog she ran up to. Luckily she was a small dog and the few she hit on the chain were bigger dogs that held out till I or my wife came out to see what was going on. I was glad she never got to my Sally bitch. Both dogs would have gotten hurt real bad and cost me a dog and probably a huge vet bill.
When I put her in a pen, I had to chain her also. Had put up extra high pieces of extended wire that leaned in to the pen. Monkey was very powerful and would lock her legs in the wire slots and climb and do what ever it took to get over it. I could have put up a hot wire, but did not like shocking my dogs.
All of the dogs I bred straight off Young's Monkey did not have that trait. I have seen pictures of some of the other Jackson dogs, but only Jr showed that fault. Must have not mattered since he could be put through a keep without going lame more than one time. Cheers
Interesting observation about the backend being taller ...
The back acts like a leafspring I reckon ...
Some very nice dogs posted. Missy is absolute perfection. So is Macho. I prefer an athletic built dog. Strong and solid built but not so heavy set that movement is hindered. Very few of those bully type dogs have good natural air, something that's very important for me. Now some dogs are exceptions and freak of natures. But the average athletic built dog will most of the time outlast the average thicker built dog, and in my experience they aren't that much weaker either. This dog is staying at my yard at the moment. I really like his built. Got serious air without lacking in strength.
P.s I love to see those freaks of nature when all you can do is scratch your head thinking how the hell is that dog doing that.
Nice post, and thanks for the compliments. I wish I had Missy all over again. Her son Silverback was a pretty good-looking dog also. The only dog I have left, Amazon, is a granddaughter of 2 of my 3 best bitches, Missy and Jezebel (Jezebel herself being a daughter of Screamer). Amazon therefore has strong, matriarchal heritage ... and is not a bad-looking bitch either:
She has kindof a longish look in some angles, with a "high back end" like Evo mentioned ... and yet the classic "square" look of a true Poncho dog (that I like to see) in others.
Of key importance to me, structure-wise, is that Amazon also has a lonng, thick, powerful neck and heavy shoulders ... which are great for a head dog like she's born to be ... as well as for really rooting into the throat as I hope she turns out to be. A truly good head dog is STRONG and stops a dog in its tracks with its powerful head-hold ... and is hard to get to because of its long, thick, powerful neck ... itself anchored into a set of powerful shoulders.
I've not touched Amazon yet, and she's coming up on 3 years old, and is entering the prime of her life.
She certainly is bred to kick ass ... and she is also built to kick ass ... and I have little doubt she will ... if/when I ever decide to see for sure.
Those are fairly old photos and she looks even more powerful now ...
Jack
Nice post, and thanks for the compliments. I wish I had Missy all over again. Her son Silverback was a pretty good-looking dog also. The only dog I have left, Amazon, is a granddaughter of 2 of my 3 best bitches, Missy and Jezebel (Jezebel herself being a daughter of Screamer). Amazon therefore has strong, matriarchal heritage ... and is not a bad-looking bitch either:
She has kindof a longish look in some angles, with a "high back end" like Evo mentioned ... and yet the classic "square" look of a true Poncho dog (that I like to see) in others.
Of key importance to me, structure-wise, is that Amazon also has a lonng, thick, powerful neck and heavy shoulders ... which are great for a head dog like she's born to be ... as well as for really rooting into the throat as I hope she turns out to be. A truly good head dog is STRONG and stops a dog in its tracks with its powerful head-hold ... and is hard to get to because of its long, thick, powerful neck ... itself anchored into a set of powerful shoulders.
I've not touched Amazon yet, and she's coming up on 3 years old, and is entering the prime of her life.
She certainly is bred to kick ass ... and she is also built to kick ass ... and I have little doubt she will ... if/when I ever decide to see for sure.
Those are fairly old photos and she looks even more powerful now ...
Jack
Amazon is a beautiful bitch. Well taken care of to.
I like bulldogs that can do it all!! Whatever it takes to win... Bulldogs that are smart enough to adapt regardless of the situation or obstacle...
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