Spot Pickers

[FrostyPaws]

If you, as a person, don't want to go into your own stuff, then you shouldn't put any of your stuff out there. That is how you avoid that situation.

The match record doesn't really factor into my decision. Are there times I'd like to jump on winners? Sure. Been successful at doing so and not so successful at times for varying reasons. If you garner a reputation of being hard to beat no matter what, a lot of doors are going to shut on you especially if you're not going for stacks of cheese.

I can think of a lot of quality dogs that met during my time in dogs. I can think of some that didn't. Without knowing the men who didn't meet, I couldn't really offer up any real reason.

[EWO]

I agree with this post as well. I have never bred an awful lot of dogs so I can't really answer a question about going into my own. But like Frosty said that is easily preventable.

The only thing I have ever been concerned with is weights and dates. How a dog is bred or what he has accomplished is really of no concern to me. When I take my dog off the chain I have to know he is at his best, I am at my best, we are at our best and then we find out where those three things measure up. If I need to factor in how he is bred or what he has done or who has him ready then I can't get a true 'check' of where my team is at. If that makes sense.

I was having a conversation once about bringing out dogs the first time on the cheap to make the game check count. I pretty much said I would like to go into another first time out dog. This guy points out a black male that looked like he had lived the hard life and simply said, "That dog right there has won all six of his first time out matches". I did not get it at first but he was pretty much telling me that if I factored in another dogs pedigree or resume then I was setting myself up to either under prepare or over prepare. If you are right when you leave the only thing that can hurt you is a better dog. And there is nothing wrong with that outcome.


Nowadays I think money separates a lot of the quality dogs from seeing one another. Tons of quality animals are owned by guys that can't swing 5-10-15 stacks. On the flip side lots of run of the mill good dogs are protected by the fact it takes 10K to see them go. The second part of quality dogs not finding one another is the day and age. It is a felony to carry your dog across state lines. That in itself is tightening up the circles some. Before long they may be called State Champs. There are lots of reasons the top two at a given time did not meet. Those reasons can be as individual as the owners and the dogs themselves. EWO







UOTE=FrostyPaws;20171]If you, as a person, don't want to go into your own stuff, then you shouldn't put any of your stuff out there. That is how you avoid that situation.

The match record doesn't really factor into my decision. Are there times I'd like to jump on winners? Sure. Been successful at doing so and not so successful at times for varying reasons. If you garner a reputation of being hard to beat no matter what, a lot of doors are going to shut on you especially if you're not going for stacks of cheese.

I can think of a lot of quality dogs that met during my time in dogs. I can think of some that didn't. Without knowing the men who didn't meet, I couldn't really offer up any real reason.[/QUOTE]

[EWO]

I think a lot of times we talk about the bad apples or the bad aspects of the game. Lots of times this game is filled with good people and good dog people who meet, find out an answer, and move on with a handshake, and maybe even a beer or two. I am guilty of this as well because it is just easier to find the bad in given situations.

With that said, the middle of the post about going into winners brought back a memory that figures into this topic.

We left from down south and went in up north. It was a five per side deal. Two of our side cancelled the night before and the third had a family medical matter minutes before we left. My buddy and I struck out on our own. When we got there it was a five per your side but 30 on ours gathering. They come out of the car with the biggest 37lb bitch I had ever seen. I make the statement I'm not giving any weight regardless of how far I drove, or how "scared" you think I am. The first time out bitch of mine was as ready as I could have possibly had her. My buddy and I were in a hostile environment as the only two white guys in the building, hell, even my dog was black. LOL. At sundown well over half the crown moved to another room and prayed with their Muslim faith. I was way nervous. The they told me their dog was a 2XW and needed a third to get to a 4XW down the road. She had 5 RIP's along the way. Nothing had stayed with her more than thirty minutes. She was the baddest bitch since Molly Bee or Queen of Hearts. The this one guy got right up in my face and said, You got any questions about what you are about to get?" I firmly answered, "I just need to know how much she weighs". The room erupted in laughter. We did the dogs. It took 61 minutes and my female was on all fours over a stretched out dog. We went into the bee hive and won. Then I was really worried and was wondering about the exit strategy. Turns out I did not need one. They were the most respectable. sportsman like dog men I had ever met. They were a solid bunch of guys that understoon they were out "keeped"/kept and out dogged on that particular night. It is one of my fondest memories in the dogs.

So as long as the weights are right I am good. Sorry for the length. Waiting for shift change. EWO

If you, as a person, don't want to go into your own stuff, then you shouldn't put any of your stuff out there. That is how you avoid that situation.

The match record doesn't really factor into my decision. Are there times I'd like to jump on winners? Sure. Been successful at doing so and not so successful at times for varying reasons. If you garner a reputation of being hard to beat no matter what, a lot of doors are going to shut on you especially if you're not going for stacks of cheese.

I can think of a lot of quality dogs that met during my time in dogs. I can think of some that didn't. Without knowing the men who didn't meet, I couldn't really offer up any real reason.

[Officially Retired]

I think a lot of times we talk about the bad apples or the bad aspects of the game. Lots of times this game is filled with good people and good dog people who meet, find out an answer, and move on with a handshake, and maybe even a beer or two. I am guilty of this as well because it is just easier to find the bad in given situations.
With that said, the middle of the post about going into winners brought back a memory that figures into this topic.
We left from down south and went in up north. It was a five per side deal. Two of our side cancelled the night before and the third had a family medical matter minutes before we left. My buddy and I struck out on our own. When we got there it was a five per your side but 30 on ours gathering. They come out of the car with the biggest 37lb bitch I had ever seen. I make the statement I'm not giving any weight regardless of how far I drove, or how "scared" you think I am. The first time out bitch of mine was as ready as I could have possibly had her. My buddy and I were in a hostile environment as the only two white guys in the building, hell, even my dog was black. LOL. At sundown well over half the crown moved to another room and prayed with their Muslim faith. I was way nervous. The they told me their dog was a 2XW and needed a third to get to a 4XW down the road. She had 5 RIP's along the way. Nothing had stayed with her more than thirty minutes. She was the baddest bitch since Molly Bee or Queen of Hearts. The this one guy got right up in my face and said, You got any questions about what you are about to get?" I firmly answered, "I just need to know how much she weighs". The room erupted in laughter. We did the dogs. It took 61 minutes and my female was on all fours over a stretched out dog. We went into the bee hive and won. Then I was really worried and was wondering about the exit strategy. Turns out I did not need one. They were the most respectable. sportsman like dog men I had ever met. They were a solid bunch of guys that understoon they were out "keeped"/kept and out dogged on that particular night. It is one of my fondest memories in the dogs.
So as long as the weights are right I am good. Sorry for the length. Waiting for shift change. EWO

Nice story. Honestly, over the years I learned never to pay attention to how bad a "killer" someone has ... in fact, at this stage, I smile inside when I hear that ... because I would say at least 70% of the time that "killer" winds up stretched out, or standing in the corner, when the smoke clears.

Jack

[The Old Timer.]

I think a lot of times we talk about the bad apples or the bad aspects of the game. Lots of times this game is filled with good people and good dog people who meet, find out an answer, and move on with a handshake, and maybe even a beer or two. I am guilty of this as well because it is just easier to find the bad in given situations.

With that said, the middle of the post about going into winners brought back a memory that figures into this topic.

We left from down south and went in up north. It was a five per side deal. Two of our side cancelled the night before and the third had a family medical matter minutes before we left. My buddy and I struck out on our own. When we got there it was a five per your side but 30 on ours gathering. They come out of the car with the biggest 37lb bitch I had ever seen. I make the statement I'm not giving any weight regardless of how far I drove, or how "scared" you think I am. The first time out bitch of mine was as ready as I could have possibly had her. My buddy and I were in a hostile environment as the only two white guys in the building, hell, even my dog was black. LOL. At sundown well over half the crown moved to another room and prayed with their Muslim faith. I was way nervous. The they told me their dog was a 2XW and needed a third to get to a 4XW down the road. She had 5 RIP's along the way. Nothing had stayed with her more than thirty minutes. She was the baddest bitch since Molly Bee or Queen of Hearts. The this one guy got right up in my face and said, You got any questions about what you are about to get?" I firmly answered, "I just need to know how much she weighs". The room erupted in laughter. We did the dogs. It took 61 minutes and my female was on all fours over a stretched out dog. We went into the bee hive and won. Then I was really worried and was wondering about the exit strategy. Turns out I did not need one. They were the most respectable. sportsman like dog men I had ever met. They were a solid bunch of guys that understoon they were out "keeped"/kept and out dogged on that particular night. It is one of my fondest memories in the dogs.

So as long as the weights are right I am good. Sorry for the length. Waiting for shift change. EWO

for such a short story that was a great read EWO, and a great result for you.

[Handsome84]

I think a lot of times we talk about the bad apples or the bad aspects of the game. Lots of times this game is filled with good people and good dog people who meet, find out an answer, and move on with a handshake, and maybe even a beer or two. I am guilty of this as well because it is just easier to find the bad in given situations.

With that said, the middle of the post about going into winners brought back a memory that figures into this topic.

We left from down south and went in up north. It was a five per side deal. Two of our side cancelled the night before and the third had a family medical matter minutes before we left. My buddy and I struck out on our own. When we got there it was a five per your side but 30 on ours gathering. They come out of the car with the biggest 37lb bitch I had ever seen. I make the statement I'm not giving any weight regardless of how far I drove, or how "scared" you think I am. The first time out bitch of mine was as ready as I could have possibly had her. My buddy and I were in a hostile environment as the only two white guys in the building, hell, even my dog was black. LOL. At sundown well over half the crown moved to another room and prayed with their Muslim faith. I was way nervous. The they told me their dog was a 2XW and needed a third to get to a 4XW down the road. She had 5 RIP's along the way. Nothing had stayed with her more than thirty minutes. She was the baddest bitch since Molly Bee or Queen of Hearts. The this one guy got right up in my face and said, You got any questions about what you are about to get?" I firmly answered, "I just need to know how much she weighs". The room erupted in laughter. We did the dogs. It took 61 minutes and my female was on all fours over a stretched out dog. We went into the bee hive and won. Then I was really worried and was wondering about the exit strategy. Turns out I did not need one. They were the most respectable. sportsman like dog men I had ever met. They were a solid bunch of guys that understoon they were out "keeped"/kept and out dogged on that particular night. It is one of my fondest memories in the dogs.

So as long as the weights are right I am good. Sorry for the length. Waiting for shift change. EWO

Ewo, I absolutely loved this post and I read quite a few of your postings and enjoy them, as well. Great posting!

[EWO]

And. When it comes to going into my own. If I had bred a lot of dogs over the years and had established my own I may have a different way of thinking. I can't really say. So my post was not to give an opinion on the actual act of going into one's own, but more so to agree it is easily preventable by not selling the dogs. But that is another topic altogether. Someone who has bred a lot, created and sold a lot could better answer that question than me. My apologies as I re-read that part it sounded like I was answering a question instead of agreeing with another poster. EWO

[FrostyPaws]

EWO, it's always nice to win those particular type of shows. I have a couple of memories along the same line with a dog of mine and some that belonged to friends.

[Wise]

I think knowing how your opponent is bred is a legit question, hell it was usually in the reports I read in sdj damn near every time so lets not act like I said something brand new. The only one I ever took out won in short order, prior to the event only thing I knew about the opposition was his weight and his lil rep that made it seem like he bit bricks in half, turns out he had less ability than us and could never get his "famous" hold and was picked up before the inevitable happened. The more they hyped him up the more I wanted him because I knew what I had seen out of mine and I was confident when they thought we'd run just cause the ped was pretty, NOT ME!